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Investigation: Why does language fallback not work on Wikidata's mobile termbox
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Steps to reproduce:

  • Open Entity page on mobile that has only Labels in languages that are on your fallback chain

Examples:"

What happens?

  • The title shows "No label defined" (no fallback to Labels on the fallback chain).

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What should have happened instead?

  • The title should show the string of a Label on the fallback chain (in the example from the mul label).

Original:

  • We understand the problem that leads to this issue.

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Manuel created this task.Jul 6 2022, 3:04 PM
Restricted Application added a subscriber: Aklapper. · View Herald TranscriptJul 6 2022, 3:04 PM
Manuel added projects: Wikidata-Campsite, Wikidata Dev Team.Jul 6 2022, 3:04 PM
Maintenance_bot added a project: Wikidata.Jul 6 2022, 3:30 PM
Manuel mentioned this in T312097: [EPIC] MUL - Improve language fallback on Wikibase .Jul 6 2022, 4:26 PM
Manuel moved this task from Incoming to Unified DOT Backlog on the Wikidata Dev Team board.
Manuel added a subscriber: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE.
Manuel added a subscriber: Michael.
Lydia_Pintscher added a project: Wikidata-Termbox.Jul 12 2022, 10:14 AM
karapayneWMDE set the point value for this task to 8.Jul 12 2022, 10:25 AM
karapayneWMDE updated the task description. (Show Details)Jul 12 2022, 10:28 AM
Manuel changed the subtype of this task from "Task" to "Bug Report".Jul 12 2022, 11:12 AM

I am not sure if we ever had this, so this could also turn out to be a feature request. xD

Manuel moved this task from Incoming to Task with Epic on the Wikidata-Campsite board.Jul 12 2022, 11:35 AM
Manuel mentioned this in T231476: Termbox (v2) does not map nonstandard language codes to standard ones for HTML.Jul 12 2022, 12:02 PM
Manuel added a parent task: T313024: [Milestone] v0.3 of the `mul` language code (test.wikidata.org).Jul 14 2022, 12:56 PM
Manuel removed a parent task: T313024: [Milestone] v0.3 of the `mul` language code (test.wikidata.org).Jul 19 2022, 3:47 PM
Manuel moved this task from Unified DOT Backlog to Incoming on the Wikidata Dev Team board.Jul 21 2022, 9:25 AM
Manuel moved this task from Incoming to Unified DOT Backlog on the Wikidata Dev Team board.Jul 21 2022, 9:31 AM
Manuel added a parent task: T313024: [Milestone] v0.3 of the `mul` language code (test.wikidata.org).Sep 12 2022, 8:50 AM
Manuel renamed this task from Language fallback not working on Wikidata's mobile termbox to MUL - Language fallback not working on Wikidata's mobile termbox.Sep 13 2022, 10:55 AM
Manuel moved this task from Task with Epic to Ready to estimate on the Wikidata-Campsite board.Oct 28 2022, 3:12 PM
Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment.Nov 2 2022, 10:02 AM

Task breakdown note: We think this needs some discussion with UX. Two questions we have at the moment:

  1. We currently show a language name above the “title” label and description – what happens to this when the label and description fell back to a different language? (Possibly to different languages between the label and the description, too.)

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  1. Unlike in the desktop termbox, the mobile termbox doesn’t have a row in the table for the current UI language – instead, the UI language is edited in the “title” section. What happens to those text inputs if the label and description fell back to other languages?

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We also feel that this is closer to a feature request than a bug report.

Manuel added a comment.Nov 2 2022, 7:06 PM

One more point to discuss with UX:

  1. What position should mul get in the list once we activate it for all users (see T312176)?

We also feel that this is closer to a feature request than a bug report.

If this functionality was never available, it is definitely a new feature. I take from this that the current design of the new termbox is fundamentally incompatible with language fallback. Some work with UX might be needed for it to fully embrace language fallback.

Manuel changed the subtype of this task from "Bug Report" to "Feature Request".Nov 2 2022, 7:06 PM
Manuel mentioned this in T322258: [EPIC] Change the workflow of mobile termbox to replicate the workflow of desktop termbox .Nov 2 2022, 7:11 PM
Manuel moved this task from Ready to estimate to Task with Epic on the Wikidata-Campsite board.Nov 2 2022, 7:32 PM
Manuel removed a project: Wikidata Dev Team.
Lydia_Pintscher added a subscriber: Lydia_Pintscher.Nov 7 2022, 4:29 PM

See also T206194

Manuel merged a task: T322258: [EPIC] Change the workflow of mobile termbox to replicate the workflow of desktop termbox .Nov 15 2022, 11:25 AM
Manuel closed this task as a duplicate of T322258: [EPIC] Change the workflow of mobile termbox to replicate the workflow of desktop termbox .Nov 15 2022, 11:28 AM
Manuel mentioned this in T323106: Design exploration: Language fallback for Wikidata's mobile termbox.Nov 15 2022, 11:44 AM
Manuel renamed this task from MUL - Language fallback not working on Wikidata's mobile termbox to Make language fallback work on Wikidata's mobile termbox.Nov 15 2022, 12:08 PM
Manuel reopened this task as Open.
Manuel merged a task: T206194: Keep fallback language behavior for termbox.
Manuel updated the task description. (Show Details)
Manuel added a subtask: T322258: [EPIC] Change the workflow of mobile termbox to replicate the workflow of desktop termbox .
Manuel added a subscriber: Lea_WMDE.
Manuel renamed this task from Make language fallback work on Wikidata's mobile termbox to [Investigation] Why does language fallback not work on Wikidata's mobile termbox.Feb 14 2023, 2:09 PM
Manuel closed this task as Resolved.
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Manuel removed the point value for this task.
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Manuel mentioned this in T329630: [GOAL] Iterate the mobile termbox workflow to make language fallback work.Feb 14 2023, 2:32 PM
Manuel removed a subtask: T322258: [EPIC] Change the workflow of mobile termbox to replicate the workflow of desktop termbox .Feb 14 2023, 6:05 PM
Manuel renamed this task from [Investigation] Why does language fallback not work on Wikidata's mobile termbox to Investigation: Why does language fallback not work on Wikidata's mobile termbox.Feb 22 2023, 11:54 AM
Manuel edited parent tasks, added: T336783: [Milestone] v0.5 of the `mul` language code (test.wikidata.org); removed: T313024: [Milestone] v0.3 of the `mul` language code (test.wikidata.org).Jun 14 2023, 5:47 PM
Manuel changed the subtype of this task from "Feature Request" to "Task".Jul 19 2023, 5:36 PM
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