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"Previous AFD" and "Previous Draft" labels for articles in Special:NewPagesFeed
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My main use of the New Pages Feed involves filtering for Were previously deleted. At the moment these are highlighted in red as Previously deleted. Nowadays, however, a high proportion have been cycled from mainspace to Draft then back to mainspace (ideally with AfC eyes in between, but often not), which triggers this filter. It would be helpful if the Previously deleted text could be expanded to identify particular circumstances, for example:

  1. Showing Previously deleted (previous AfD) for article XY if one or more Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/XY pages exist, helping identify potential reposts.
  2. Showing Previously deleted (draft exists) for article XY if a Draft: XY page exists, often indicative of a copy-paste to mainspace.

Both of these would involve just file-exists tests based on the article title. A more ambitious option 3 would involve appending an icon alongside all Previously deleted texts, to allow the user to click through to a new tab showing Special:Log?page=XY so that the actual history of prior instances can be viewed.

Each or all of these changes could I think increase the effective scrutiny of articles recurring into mainspace. --@AllyD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Page_Curation/Suggested_improvements#Expanded_info_on_previous_deletions

edit: @Giraffer also requests the AFD part of this.

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Sounds like the two proposed new metadata tags are "Previous AFD" and "Previous Draft"

I'm guessing when the page is added to pagetriage_page, it does a one time check of the logs to see if the page has been deleted. If so, it then creates a "previously deleted" metadata tag.

That would be a good time to do other kinds of checks, such as the checks for our two new tags. The tags themselves would need to be added to pagetriage_tags. The data for each page is stored in pagetriage_page_tags

Would also need code to filter by these tags, display these tags in Special:NewPagesFeed, and display these tags in the Page Curation toolbar's information menu.

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Novem_Linguae added a subscriber: Giraffer.

I mentioned this off-wiki to Novem, yep.

One more scenario I run into frequently (outside of draftifications, which NL mentioned) is seeing the "Previously deleted" tag next to a page (often a BLP) which was CSD/PROD'd 10+ years ago, usually with a different subject, despite having the same name, so the previous deletion really has no bearing on the current iteration of the page.

One more scenario I run into frequently (outside of draftifications, which NL mentioned) is seeing the "Previously deleted" tag next to a page (often a BLP) which was CSD/PROD'd 10+ years ago, usually with a different subject, despite having the same name, so the previous deletion really has no bearing on the current iteration of the page.

Not always easy to discern the nature of the previous instance and determine its relevance to the present article. This is where a scratchpad of inconclusive review findings would be useful: I sometimes add the Old Prod / Prev Afd template to the new instance, and where appropriate add a note about it probably not being the same person. Maybe an additional template for placing structured investigative findings onto the new article's Talk page could be useful, and then could in time be consumed as structured information?

A direct link to the AfD/Draft in question would also be useful.

Novem_Linguae renamed this task from Expanded info on previous deletions to "Previous AFD" and "Previous Draft" labels for articles in Special:NewPagesFeed.Nov 10 2022, 2:26 AM
Novem_Linguae moved this task from Soon to Priority small features on the PageTriage board.