hi @nettrom_WMF , hope you're well! Joseph made an updated version of our TY Page donation dashboard, here is a screenshot.
Let me when/if you'd like me to share data from any particular time-range to help make sense of the account data. As you can see, Japan and Sweden have ongoing Fundraising campaigns right now so their "TY Page views" are much higher!

Thanks for the update, @HNordeenWMF!

I'm only seeing the file number, not the image. I think because it's "restricted" to only show to you?
I think you can update the sharing preferences on the right Phab column under "Referenced Files".

ah thank you @KStoller-WMF! I think it should be attached now.

@HNordeenWMF : I'm currently working on gathering these statistics and noticed that T321370 specifies two languages for each campaign: the local language of the wiki as well as English. The language is then reflected in the uselang parameter in the URL. When grabbing the data I noticed this parameter doesn't show up (except for a few test visits), and from playing around with the Thank You page I did not see the uselang parameter in the link to account creation. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not?

@nettrom_WMF - My sense is that we did more in-depth analysis for the initial experiment, and at this point it should be OK to simplify and just look at combined metrics.
But if you or @HNordeenWMF think splitting the data by language is definitely needed, feel free to speak up.

In T331495#8730997, @KStoller-WMF wrote:

@nettrom_WMF - My sense is that we did more in-depth analysis for the initial experiment, and at this point it should be OK to simplify and just look at combined metrics.
But if you or @HNordeenWMF think splitting the data by language is definitely needed, feel free to speak up.

When it comes to this analysis we'll have to look at the combined metrics since there's no language data. I wanted to make sure that @HNordeenWMF is aware of this though, as I perceived it as a discrepancy between the specifications and deployment. The Thank You pages themselves have two separate language versions, as reflected in the dashboard screenshots shown above.

@nettrom_WMF I don't think it's an issue for us, but @Pcoombe might have something to add too as he understands the TY Page much better than I do.

To make sure I understand your point "we'll have to look at the combined metrics since there's no language data". Does this mean we won't be able to know for example English-France registrations, we'll only be able to know total France registrations (en, fr) as a portion of total France TY Page views? That seems ok.
I'm assuming we'd still be able to look at total English registrations (all countries) as a portion of total English TY Page views (all countries) too? Or do we also lose that ability.

Fundraising is very country-based in our goals, whereas I know other teams are language-wiki based. If it would be more beneficial for Product to have specific language-wiki data within each country, we could all work to update the links.

In T331495#8735607, @HNordeenWMF wrote:

To make sure I understand your point "we'll have to look at the combined metrics since there's no language data". Does this mean we won't be able to know for example English-France registrations, we'll only be able to know total France registrations (en, fr) as a portion of total France TY Page views? That seems ok.
I'm assuming we'd still be able to look at total English registrations (all countries) as a portion of total English TY Page views (all countries) too? Or do we also lose that ability.

"Yes" to your first question. I'm unsure about the answer to the second question. Maybe if I describe my understanding of the workflow we can figure this out? Here's a diagram I drew based on how T321370 defines the landing page URLs based on donations from Sweden:

I'm not sure if my assumption that donations in English originate from the English Wikipedia is correct? Would they be from either Swedish or English Wikipedia, but follow the language of the user (e.g. if I have my interface language set to "English" on Swedish Wikipedia)?

Since the uselang parameter is not present in the URLs, the links from the Thank You pages all go to Swedish Wikipedia and show the account creation page in Swedish. We're able to identify the views of the account creation page from the campaign parameter, and then identify account creations based on the same parameter.

If what we want is to be able to distinguish country & language all the way through, having campaign parameters that define both (e.g. as done in T305659) would enable the most reliable and easily retrievable statistics. Having uselang in the URL parameters enables us to understand views of the account creation page by language, but we then lose that distinction at account creation. Another possibility is to geolocate the landing page views and account creations, something that we haven't done previously.

Thanks for this! Apologies for the delay in responding here.

Those seeing the Thank You page in English do get a link to create an account on the English Wikipedia e.g. in Sweden the English language Thank You page links to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CreateAccount&campaign=typage-nwe-sv-2023.

This seemed to make more sense for the user, and is consistent with what we previously did in Latin America. I mentioned this in Slack, but I don't think the links in T321370 got updated sorry.

I'm not sure if my assumption that donations in English originate from the English Wikipedia is correct? Would they be from either Swedish or English Wikipedia, but follow the language of the user (e.g. if I have my interface language set to "English" on Swedish Wikipedia)?

We only show fundraising banners to logged-out users, who can't set an interface language. So yes, donations in English will always be originally from the English Wikipedia (there may be a very small number who used the sidebar donate link on a different English project e.g. English Wiktionary)

In any case I think we're still okay just splitting by campaign parameter / country unless Product particularly wants to look at language splits. @HNordeenWMF what do you think?

Thanks @Pcoombe, agreed I think the current parameters are fine with us.
Earlier on I noticed the links being the same for en+ other language, and @KStoller-WMF said product didn't require that breakdown by language within country.

Thanks, Morten! I've summarized this data here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newcomer_experience_projects#Donor_Thank_you_page