Thanks for this proposal! All proposed sessions couldn't become part of the agenda published today due to limited space, including yours. I'll ping here if a room becomes available to organize remaining or impromptu sessions.

Hello! There is now additional space available for you to schedule a session: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Hackathon_2023/Program#Schedule (See "Small Hacking Room Corner (up to 20 participants)"). If you are still interested in organizing a session, you can claim this slot on a first-come, first-serve basis. There may not be any AV equipment in this small room, just a bunch of tables, and the room might be separated from the big hacking room with a bunch of dividers.

I have now added this to the 10-10:30 slot on Saturday.

Below you may find the link attached that redirects the user to the corresponding Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/wmh2023-Schemas_for_medical_entities

Session Notes:

Schemas for medical entities

Date & time: Saturday, May 20th at 10:00 am EEST / 7:00 am UTC

Relevant links

• Phabricator task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334026
• https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Daniel_Mietchen/Schemas_for_medical_entities
• Entity Schemas directory: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/EntitySchema_directory
• EntitySchema generator: https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/entityschema-generator/

Participants

• Daniel Mietchen
• Elwin Huaman

Notes

Number of sessions on schemas but not a session on how to adapt schemas for a particular field

Look at medical schema, made a list of shape expressions that are theoretically useful
[looking at the wikidatapage - put the link later]

might have detailed info on the patient
some information is not on wikidata and might never be on wikidata

what schemas are available
[looking at the schema links from the documentation]

wants to get feedback on what others think would be useful in the space

entity schema directory

[looking at medical schemas from the available schema list from the documentation]
its a mix of things no systematics to it
look at the indivual schema they differ in style and other aspects, but how can we standardize this
references arent used in a standarized way

he is wondering what the best approach is and feedback on how to the schemas in a certain field to converge better
sometimes vaiables start with # and sometimes no #
sometimes variables have explanations and sometimes they dont

shape expressions do allow you to standardize
they also can be used for quality control

issues with existing schemas
[looking at three of the hospitals linked in the documentation]
the data is in different languages
sometimes the data is in one chunk and sometimes the data is pointing to other places

question for the user - what one of these to use
the Japanese user doesn't know about the Malaysian user
how to inform them about each other

[looking at the dependency tree]

• how to relationships between schemas link to relationships between entities

Praticial issues
Findability
its hard to find things
[looking at the sparql query]

There are sandbox schemas
anyone can come in and change things
there is no documentation so its complicated to work with

Scalability

Question
there is an entity schema generator
tools-static.wmflabs -> find the rest of the link
https://tools-static.wmflabs.org/entityschema-generator/
There is a testing tool you can then use to test your schema
https://shex-simple.toolforge.org/wikidata/packages/shex-webapp/doc/shex-simple.html?data=Endpoint:%20https://query.wikidata.org/sparql&hideData&manifest=[]&textMapIsSparqlQuery&schemaURL=%2F%2Fwww.wikidata.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AEntitySchemaText%2FE10