this task is also valid for read mode, in this example i published an empty list

found the existing task on empty list, lemme know what you think of the proposed design in the task description @gengh!

@gengh: What OKR is this part of? Or do you think this is essential work? If neither, I think this should go to the engineering backlog?

@gengh please take a look to the question of @Jdforrester-WMF

@Jdforrester-WMF I was thinking on moving this to the engineering backlog, although I'm aware that it's very tightly related to these two tasks planned for this Quarter:

T391129 [Design] - Design solution to limit number of items rendered in typed lists.
T391130 [Development] - Typed List component: Implement solution to limit number of list items presented to the user at once.

So we might be closing this one as a consequence. I will keep this task linked in case we do that.

In T341069#10821365, @gengh wrote:

@Jdforrester-WMF I was thinking on moving this to the engineering backlog, although I'm aware that it's very tightly related to these two tasks planned for this Quarter:

T391129 [Design] - Design solution to limit number of items rendered in typed lists.
T391130 [Development] - Typed List component: Implement solution to limit number of list items presented to the user at once.

So we might be closing this one as a consequence. I will keep this task linked in case we do that.

Aha, right, that makes sense, thanks! Maybe we should add it as a blocker to T391129?

Is Amin's design sketch above the final, agreed version? There haven't been any updates here, but maybe somewhere else?

In T341069#10984799, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote:

Is Amin's design sketch above the final, agreed version? There haven't been any updates here, but maybe somewhere else?

Yes, it is the final version.

In T341069#10987905, @gonyeahialam wrote:

In T341069#10984799, @Jdforrester-WMF wrote:

Is Amin's design sketch above the final, agreed version? There haven't been any updates here, but maybe somewhere else?

Yes, it is the final version.

Aha, OK. However, this task is "Design and implement", and the implementation hasn't been started yet?

Change #1185946 had a related patch set uploaded (by Daphne Smit; author: Daphne Smit):

[mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda@master] Added empty state to typed lists and multilingual strings

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1185946

Alignment of elements in this patch seems slightly off with respect to the shared designs:

• there is more vertical spacing between "0 items" and the "[+]" icon than from the icon to the next key (in the design there's the same spacing)
• the plus sign is horizontally aligned slightly to the left, while in the design it's horizontally aligned with the "0 items" above. Was this also an expected change for this patch?

Additionally, the color used in the design is "@color-placeholder", is the change to "@color-subtle" intentional?

Otherwise, it works good!

I am assuming touching the + button should not be part of this patch.

I changed the spacing + color to be correct.

Change #1185946 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/WikiLambda@master] Added empty state to typed lists and multilingual strings

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1185946

Tested on wikifunctions.org and confirmed it works as expected

Is the "0 items" always in English? Or is it translateable somewhere?

Yes its translateable as "wikilambda-list-empty-state": "0 items",