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Image uploading social workflow and motivation - display result on context pages!
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The improvements to the Upload Wizard are very welcome, but socially, I think it is still broken. Please correct me if I overlook something or overlook another extension.

Socially, I believe many mediawiki extensions need a way to ask for images on a topic page, provide an upload wizard AND display the results on the topic page. Presently, even if the image is added to the wiki or a commons repository, it simply disappears in a black hole from the perspective of the contributing image author.

I believe it is possible to have a wizard option which does the following:

  • store the page context from which it was called.
  • upload images to local wiki or a repository
  • open the page context in edit mode
  • search for some form of new-images-section
    • a possible implementation of this could be a div with id=newimages containing a gallery tag
  • if new-images-section exists: add images, if not create with new images.
  • Save context page.

Presently, WMF is possibly the biggest driver of open content (CC BY/CC BY-SA) but is able to collect images only from the small population that is the intersection of the population or people able to edit mediawiki and the huge population able to provide quality images.

The new-images-section solution would probably not directly work for wikipedia itself; here some more complex review mechanism (new images gallery would be shown only to some users, including image uploader, or so) would be needed, perhaps in combination with flagged rev. I view this feature however potentially as a two step process: implement with direct addition to page, modify to optimize for flagged revs.

However, I think something the described feature would be needed; presently all these crowdsourcing images are mostly collected by projects that either use no open content license at all, or the NC license at best. WMF is not able to exert its potential pull towards open content in this area.


Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement
See Also:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46242

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(In reply to comment #0)

Socially, I believe many mediawiki extensions need a way to ask for images
on a topic page, provide an upload wizard AND display the results on the topic
page. Presently, even if the image is added to the wiki or a commons repository, > it simply disappears in a black hole from the perspective of the contributing
image author.

Could you give an example of a mediawiki extension that needs this? why would the image disappear?

(In reply to comment #1)

Could you give an example of a mediawiki extension that needs this? why would
the image disappear?

("mediawiki extension" is misleading, I really meant workflow/applications).

The contributor tries to add an illustration to the page of a monument, an organism, a person, an event in a Wikipedia, Wikiversity etc. She or he is redirected to an upload wizard, which at the end claims that the image has been added. However, on returning to the context to which the image was tried to be added, there is no appearance of the image.

From the perspective of the contributor, this is a failure, the image has been uploaded but disappeared into some strange corner where it "seemingly" disappeared.

I therefore propose integration of context into the upload wizard and adding a "new images" section at the bottom of the context (Wikipedia) page, which gives feedback to image contributors as well as support for page editors accepting or rejecting these new images into the main article.

Have a look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MsUpload and let me know if that is something that fits better and we can try to get that near deployment :)

flominator wrote:

This could be a way, but how can we tell the uploader that he is going to put his uploads under a free license?

I think this extension should be improved for this.. We need to start a discussion and get consensus if this is needed and how it should work.

bug wrote:

(In reply to comment #4)

This could be a way, but how can we tell the uploader that he is going to put
his uploads under a free license?

Do you mean the info section (all uploads must be available under a free license) or the dropdown where uploaders can select the licensing? For my opinion, both things could be solved in a similar way in the extension.

flominator wrote:

After checking out the extension installed at http://yellpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page I'm quite impressed. Since I don't know, how a vanilla installation of this extension might look like, it's difficult to decide what it lacks.

  1. Is there any way to get a sample MediaWiki installation with only this extension installed?
  1. Would it even be possible to use this extension in Wikimedia wikis?

flominator: You can try with an instance on Labs, but that's offtopic for this bug report: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs and https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Access

(In reply to comment #8)
Andre, what is a better place to discuss using an alternative extension like MsUpload and get consensus for the same? Village Pump?

Agree that this bug report shouldn't be spammed with such requests and should be more UW specific.

Village Pump of the specific wikisite, I'd say.

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