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SubPageList fails to show subpages in MediaWiki 1.18
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After this bug was fixed:

SubPageList fails to show subpages in MediaWiki 1.18. You can see it here with the login Demo/test:

There are many subpages for that page, but since I can't see them, I can't think of what they are off the top of my head, so I made a new subpage to demonstrate this bug:

SPL still fails to show the new subpage.

Version: unspecified
Severity: normal



Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 22 2014, 12:00 AM
bzimport set Reference to bz33403.
bzimport added a subscriber: Unknown Object (MLST).

You are giving me a reason for why something does not work and then repeat several times it doesn't work. This is not how you report bugs. On top of that, you go modify the documentation with incorrect info. Not the first time you do this. This is NOT helpful, but vandalism. If you want to help, write decent bugs report like other people seem to manage.

I reverted your changes and updated the install docs with the info you need:

I'm sorry you don't like my bug reports, but calling it vandalism is out of line. I'm doing the best I can, and I'm getting better at it. I spend about 80% of my MediaWiki time in testing bugs to support the work you're doing. If you have any helpful tips or suggestions to make that time more productive, I'd very much like to hear them. Angry outburst are not going to help me give you better bug reports.

For this bug report, I gave you a demo that shows that it does not work. If you want more than that, you're going to have to be specific and explain what you need help with. I don't think this bug report is any more invalid than this one:

So, I'm reopening it again. If that makes you angry, I can't help you with that.

If you're able to explain why this bug is invalid, or if you have a suggestion for how I can determine whether it is invalid or not, I'm happy to do that work for you. Just don't keep shooting the messenger when I find bugs. And, especially, don't leave me in the dark when you should be mentioning something you know (like maybe you know a good reason why this bug report is invalid, but you're not saying because you're trying to be uncooperative).

About documentation:

You keep telling me to update the documentation, and then you angrily delete or revert everything when I do. Don't be surprised next time you tell me to update documentation, and I tell you "no":

This bug report had not been responded to for several days, and my update to the SubPageList documentation was a reasonable thing to do while it was idle. Bawolff checked my revision, and approved it:

Are you angry at him too, or just me? I question your motivation.

I'm closing this as invalid. It would have been helpful if you had mentioned exactly what I should read in your updated documentation, and I'm a little annoyed that you didn't, as a matter of courtesy.

(In reply to comment #1)

If you want to help, write decent bugs report like other people seem to manage.

This is particularly upsetting. How would you feel if every time I found a valid bug in your code (and I've found a few already), I told you "write decent code like other people seem to manage"? It's a pretty disrespectful thing to say.

I have reported 75 bugs so far. 56 of them are either resolved or still open, and the rest are DUPLICATE, WONTFIX, or LATER. That gives me a 75% "usefulness" rate in my bug reports. Even if that "usefulness" rate were only 50%, it's still useful, and I insist on being treated with respect from you.

I need to improve my debugging skills, and you need to quit trying to humiliate me when I make a mistake. I make mistakes in reporting bugs, and you make mistakes in writing code. You are not "better" than me, although you may be smarter, more talented, and/or more experienced with software. You have no license to be arrogant or disrespectful towards me, or the work I do for you and MediaWiki/WMF.

Cooperate respectfully, and we'll both get better results from our work. I enjoy the challenge of bug hunting, and I'll forget all about these complaints if you'll do the same. Cheers.