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Allow local admins to see private global abuse filters
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Description

Feature summary (what you would like to be able to do and where):
Now both local ang global abusefilter exists. Some of them are hidden and only sysops can see its content and edit it. But when is something defined in global filter, sysops are not able to check it.

Use case(s) (list the steps that you performed to discover that problem, and describe the actual underlying problem which you want to solve. Do not describe only a solution):
Some user asks "my edit was blocked because of some filter". When it is local filter, experienced user (or sysop in case of hidden filters) can help this user - usually wrong type of reference or check false positive. But when is it from global filter, noone can help.
Example: Why was this edit blocked by https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/365 ?

Benefits (why should this be implemented?):
Admins will be able to help other users with some problematic edits.

Event Timeline

@JAnD until there's a technical solution for your feature request, you might want to ask for Abuse filter helper permissions on meta:SRG. Local admins helping with false positives of global filters are a major use case of this user group.

On Google Docs where I maintain GAF 365's code, I've adjusted that code to prevent any more false positives, and I'm not commenting any more about the global filter without spilling any beans.

Other users who can view or edit private filters on their home wikis can also request GAFH on SRGP as well.

Aklapper renamed this task from Allow local adminss to see global abuse filters to Allow local admins to see global abuse filters.Aug 27 2024, 7:48 PM

Errm, are you implying that you manage some code in a Google Docs document?

Abuse filter syntax code and regex of a private global filter, to be exact.

taavi subscribed.

I don't see anything in here that would require code in MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth?

And this should probably be discussed somewhere on-wiki before being implemented, as private global filters are private for a reason and I'm not certain we want to let any admin on any tiny wiki to view all of them.

taavi renamed this task from Allow local admins to see global abuse filters to Allow local admins to see private global abuse filters.Nov 10 2024, 10:10 AM
Pppery subscribed.

I don't see anything in here that would require code in MediaWiki-extensions-CentralAuth?

Yeah, agreed. That was a reflexive move from a third party extension implementing global user rights to the extension that actually implements global user rights on Wikimedia wikis, without thinking about whether that was actually needed.

And this should probably be discussed somewhere on-wiki before being implemented, as private global filters are private for a reason and I'm not certain we want to let any admin on any tiny wiki to view all of them.

On the other hand, why should some private filter block work for local admins?
Private filters are because of vandals (eg. blacklisted words) and local admins (or othe local group) should be allowed to override them.