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Better highlight user-facing IRC changes following migration to ircstream
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irc1002.wikimedia.org provided —and still does— a default cloak for all users (@anonymous.user). Since T376014, irc.wikimedia.org points to irc1003.wikimedia.org, which no longer provides a cloak.

As I understand, IRC users are no longer visible to each other on the new ircstream service, so I suppose a cloak may no longer be needed. Still, a user joining irc.wikimedia.org may think their IP is exposed. Is this intended, or should a cloak be enabled on irc1003.wikimedia.org as well?

It may be useful to mention this new behavior in the MOTD shown when joining the server. I was initially confused when I noticed my IP was visibile and the IRC channels suddenly had no users (while bots using IRC streams were clearly still working). To find out about these changes I had to first find T376014, then ircstream on wikitech, and finally the ircstream's readme on GitHub.

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Titore updated the task description. (Show Details)

Hi!

As I understand, IRC users are no longer visible to each other on the new ircstream service, so I suppose a cloak may not be necessary. Still, a user joining irc.wikimedia.org may think their IP is exposed. Is this intended, or should a cloak be enabled on irc1003.wikimedia.org as well?

My understanding is that the IP address is not exposed to the rest of the sandboxes, every client gets its own and it doesn't have visibility on others. Since ircstream is not a full implementation of an IRC server, there shouldn't be any privacy concerns but we can definitely add some info to MOTD (even if I am not 100% sure if everybody will read it).

We sent an email to Wikitech-l explaining the move, but we didn't know how to reach out to all clients/bots connected, really sorry for the trouble.

We can also expand https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Irc.wikimedia.org with new info, so the link in the MOTD should lead to ircstreams directly.

And if you run a bot operating on irc.wikimedia.org, it would be fantastic if you could leave some information at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ircstream#Bots_still_using_the_legacy_setup

It would be helpful to have actively used bots listed there for a better overview.

@Titore do you feel that the above Wikitech change is enough? The link is visible on the MOTD, so it should be easy for a user to get the privacy info. Lemme know :)

@Titore do you feel that the above Wikitech change is enough? The link is visible on the MOTD, so it should be easy for a user to get the privacy info. Lemme know :)

Right, since that page is linked on the MOTD, I suppose it should be enough. Thank you.

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@Titore I am closing this since as far a I get there is no action item left to do, please re-open if you feel we missed anything! Thanks! :)