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Make gender-related features work with global preferences
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Description

Steps to replicate the issue (include links if applicable):

What happens?:

  • In the global settings of my German Wikipedia-based account de:Benutzer:Gnurpsnewoel, I have changed the gender marker at ’How do you prefer to be described?’ from ”They edit wiki pages” to ”She edits wiki pages”. This should automatically lead to renaming the prefix of my user page to Benutzerin:Gnurpsnewoel after making another edit on my user page.
  • I did some edits on my user page and waited more than two weeks if something would change in my profile's name.
  • I changed the settings back to ”They edit wiki pages”. I edited my user page once.
  • I waited more than 48 hours.
  • I changed the settings again to “She edits wiki pages”. I edited my user page may times.
  • Again, I waited more than 48 hours.
  • My profile's prefix has not changed.

What should have happened instead?:

Unfortunately, nothing happened. The prefix of my user page was not renamed to Benutzerin:Gnurpsnewoel at any step.

Software version:

Wikipedia: 1.44.0-wmf.16; fbbe3b2; 21:23, 10. Feb. 2025.

Other information (browser name/version, screenshots, etc.):

  • I have got a global account on Metawikimedia.
  • My browser is FF/134.0 and I am using Linux/Ubuntu 24.10.
  • I have also checked from FFmobile/135.0 from an Android 13 device.

Details

Related Changes in Gerrit:
SubjectRepoBranchLines +/-
Implement CentralIdLookup::lookupUserNamesWithFiltermediawiki/extensions/CentralAuthmaster+486 -108
Revert^2 "Add integration test for the global gender project"mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferencesmaster+65 -0
Revert "Add integration test for the global gender project"mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferencesmaster+0 -56
Add integration test for the global gender projectmediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferencesmaster+56 -0
user: Allow gender to be a global preferencemediawiki/coremaster+175 -36
Implement the new fetchBatchForUserNames methodmediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferencesmaster+55 -6
user: Add filtered versions of CentralIdLookup::lookupUserNamesmediawiki/coremaster+146 -38
Implement proposed abstract method CentralIdLookup::lookupUserNamesWithFiltermediawiki/extensions/Wikibasemaster+16 -0
user: Add CentralIdLookup::FILTER_ constantsmediawiki/coremaster+4 -0
Split MediaWikiTitleCodecmediawiki/coremaster+989 -1 K
Customize query in gerrit

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Gnurpsnewoel created this task.Feb 16 2025, 2:32 PM
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Gnurpsnewoel added a comment.EditedFeb 16 2025, 2:39 PM

I forgot to mention that I have purged my user page at least twice with ?action=purge during the process. I have also purged my global account page.

I have also logged in and logged out several times.

Let me add the archived discussion of w:de:Wikipedia:Fragen zur Wikipedia about this issue in the German Wikipedia. It reflects the steps that I have described above.

Gnurpsnewoel added a comment.Feb 16 2025, 2:44 PM
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Johannnes89 subscribed.Feb 16 2025, 3:35 PM
MBq subscribed.EditedFeb 17 2025, 5:51 AM

Reproduced with my test account. I changed Einstellungen/Benuzerdaten/Form_der_Anrede to “Sie bearbeitet Wikiseiten” (= female pronoun). On my startpage the tab changes to “Benutzerinnenseite” as intended, but the pagename clings to “Benutzer:MBq-Tests”. Vector (2022), everything on standard, no userscripts.

IMG_5952.jpeg (460×1 px, 160 KB)

Gnurpsnewoel added a comment.Feb 17 2025, 8:44 AM

Thank you for reproducing it, @MBq!

In T386584#10556012, @MBq wrote:

Reproduced with my test account. I changed Einstellungen/Benuzerdaten/Form_der_Anrede to “Sie bearbeitet Wikiseiten” (= female pronoun). On my startpage the tab changes to “Benutzerinnenseite” as intended, but the pagename clings to “Benutzer:MBq-Tests”. Vector (2022), everything on standard, no userscripts.

Let me add that I checked my page a minute ago: On my user page, the ”Benutzerseite” didn't even change. Maybe this comes additionally.

I am glad you tried it yourself!

PerfektesChaos subscribed.Feb 17 2025, 9:59 AM

If the one and only is the label and headline on this particular tab, the reason might be local in dewiki or by generating the system message at translatewiki.

@Gnurpsnewoel: Are you prefer to be addressed as du or Sie, or Austrian vs. Switzerland?

I am going to look into local configuration.

If you play with gender function, are you accepted?

PerfektesChaos added a comment.EditedFeb 17 2025, 10:55 AM

After some investigations:

  • It feels as if the change in preferences form is not stored in database.
  • This goes for multiple wikis, even meta:.
  • It arrived a few months ago, while older assignments are still present in database (like this one). I guess they could not shift to male/unknown now.
  • Translation is not involved.
  • Local config is not involved.
  • {{gender}} function does work as expected, accessing the unknown property value in database.

However, something is strange with current behaviour, it is not fully consistent. The feeling is like a very delayed cache lag.

  • The one and only reliable memorizing of the property is on preferences form, while rendering pages is accessing an outdated value. Mostly, but not always.
Gnurpsnewoel added a comment.Feb 17 2025, 7:27 PM
In T386584#10556389, @PerfektesChaos wrote:

If the one and only is the label and headline on this particular tab, the reason might be local in dewiki or by generating the system message at translatewiki.

In T386584#10556389, @PerfektesChaos wrote:

@Gnurpsnewoel: Are you prefer to be addressed as du or Sie, or Austrian vs. Switzerland?

”du” and in de-DE.

In T386584#10556389, @PerfektesChaos wrote:

If you play with gender function, are you accepted?

I'm receiving: ”u”.

Umherirrender subscribed.Feb 17 2025, 8:17 PM

Technically related is T383181: Setting neutral gender in GlobalPreferences does not override locally-set binary gender.
The gender preference is special and accessed different, thats bypass the global preferences system. So gender is not working at the moment as global preference.

Gnurpsnewoel added a comment.Feb 17 2025, 9:28 PM

To be more clear about this:

In T386584#10556389, @PerfektesChaos wrote:

@Gnurpsnewoel: Are you prefer to be addressed as du or Sie, or Austrian vs. Switzerland?

I am receiving ”du” in both deWiki and metaWikimedia.

In T386584#10556389, @PerfektesChaos wrote:

If you play with gender function, are you accepted?

I'm receiving: ”u” in both deWiki and metaWikimedia.

tstarling subscribed.Feb 18 2025, 5:46 AM
In T386584#10556593, @PerfektesChaos wrote:
  • It feels as if the change in preferences form is not stored in database.

I can't reproduce that. I can reproduce the bug per the procedure in the task description but it is due to GenderCache not supporting GlobalPreferences.

  • It arrived a few months ago, while older assignments are still present in database (like this one). I guess they could not shift to male/unknown now.

The bug I'm looking at has always existed. GenderCache has never supported GlobalPreferences.

However, something is strange with current behaviour, it is not fully consistent. The feeling is like a very delayed cache lag.

GenderCache, despite its name, has no persistent cache. It always does a DB query.

tstarling claimed this task.Feb 18 2025, 7:01 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Feb 19 2025, 5:37 AM

Change #1120705 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/core@master] Split MediaWikiTitleCodec

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120705

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Feb 19 2025, 5:37 AM

Change #1120706 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/core@master] Add CentralIdLookup::lookupOwnedUserNames

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120706

gerritbot added a comment.Feb 19 2025, 5:37 AM

Change #1120707 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/core@master] Allow gender to be a global preference

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120707

Daimona subscribed.Feb 19 2025, 4:48 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Feb 20 2025, 4:56 AM

Change #1121127 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Implement the new fetchBatchForUserNames method

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1121127

gerritbot added a comment.Feb 20 2025, 4:58 AM

Change #1121128 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth@master] Implement CentralIdLookup::lookupAttachedUserNames

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1121128

tstarling mentioned this in T383181: Setting neutral gender in GlobalPreferences does not override locally-set binary gender.Feb 20 2025, 5:05 AM
tstarling merged a task: T383181: Setting neutral gender in GlobalPreferences does not override locally-set binary gender.
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gerritbot added a comment.Feb 21 2025, 2:26 AM

Change #1121474 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Add integration test for the global gender project

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1121474

gerritbot added a comment.Feb 25 2025, 12:03 AM

Change #1122266 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Implement proposed abstract method CentralIdLookup::lookupUserNamesWithFilter

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122266

gerritbot added a comment.Feb 25 2025, 12:30 AM

Change #1122269 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tim Starling; author: Tim Starling):

[mediawiki/core@master] user: Add CentralIdLookup::FILTER_ constants

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122269

tstarling edited projects, added Community-Tech (Sea Lion Squad); removed Community-Tech.Feb 26 2025, 10:41 PM
tstarling moved this task from Backlog - groomed to In Development on the Community-Tech (Sea Lion Squad) board.
tstarling moved this task from In Development to Feedback and Review on the Community-Tech (Sea Lion Squad) board.Feb 27 2025, 2:53 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 3 2025, 4:54 PM

Change #1120705 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] Split MediaWikiTitleCodec

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120705

matmarex subscribed.Mar 3 2025, 5:10 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 6 2025, 3:01 PM

Change #1122269 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] user: Add CentralIdLookup::FILTER_ constants

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122269

gerritbot added a comment.Mar 6 2025, 3:01 PM

Change #1121128 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/CentralAuth@master] Implement CentralIdLookup::lookupUserNamesWithFilter

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1121128

ReleaseTaggerBot added a project: MW-1.44-notes (1.44.0-wmf.20; 2025-03-11).Mar 6 2025, 4:00 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 6 2025, 4:38 PM

Change #1122266 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Implement proposed abstract method CentralIdLookup::lookupUserNamesWithFilter

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122266

gerritbot added a comment.Mar 6 2025, 4:38 PM

Change #1120706 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] user: Add filtered versions of CentralIdLookup::lookupUserNames

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120706

gerritbot added a comment.Mar 8 2025, 6:10 PM

Change #1121127 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Implement the new fetchBatchForUserNames method

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1121127

gerritbot added a comment.Mar 8 2025, 6:26 PM

Change #1120707 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] user: Allow gender to be a global preference

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1120707

gerritbot added a comment.Mar 8 2025, 7:02 PM

Change #1121474 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Add integration test for the global gender project

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1121474

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 8 2025, 7:30 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 8 2025, 8:49 PM

Change #1125603 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; author: Bartosz Dziewoński):

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Revert "Add integration test for the global gender project"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1125603

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 8 2025, 8:49 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 8 2025, 9:07 PM

Change #1125603 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Revert "Add integration test for the global gender project"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1125603

matmarex mentioned this in T388314: GenderCacheIntegrationTest::testGenderCache failure.Mar 8 2025, 9:28 PM
Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 8 2025, 9:30 PM
matmarex added a comment.Mar 8 2025, 9:32 PM

All of the implementation patches are merged, but after merging the patch with integration tests, we found that it fails in CI when executed together with some other extensions: T388314. I reverted it until this problem can be investigated next week.

gerritbot added a comment.Mar 9 2025, 12:00 AM

Change #1125616 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dylsss; author: Dylsss):

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Revert^2 "Add integration test for the global gender project"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1125616

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 9 2025, 12:00 AM
tstarling renamed this task from Gendered prefix of User page not changing to Make gender-related features work with global preferences.Mar 9 2025, 9:44 PM
tstarling added a project: User-notice.
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 9 2025, 10:01 PM

Change #1125616 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/GlobalPreferences@master] Revert^2 "Add integration test for the global gender project"

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1125616

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 9 2025, 10:30 PM
tstarling closed this task as Resolved.Mar 10 2025, 2:42 AM

Should be deployed in 1.44.0-wmf.20.

Gnurpsnewoel added a comment.Mar 12 2025, 8:30 PM

Thank you, everybody!

Quiddity moved this task from To Triage to In current Tech/News draft on the User-notice board.Mar 14 2025, 10:07 PM
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Gnurpsnewoel added a comment.Apr 4 2025, 5:41 PM

Thank you everybody who contributed to this and showed interest. It works pretty well and I'm happy to see the results :-)

Tgr mentioned this in T404964: The load on s7 is too high.Sep 18 2025, 2:31 PM
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