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Set Google machine translation option as default in the Content Translation tool on Kannada Wikipedia
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Disable MinT and Yandex machine translation services in the Content Translation tool on Kannada Wikipedia

Google translation
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more accurate translation
Mint translation
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around 70% accurate translation and not rendering references properly
Yandex translation
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less than 70% accurate translation

There also similar reported for Metawiki T348361: Disable MinT translation tool on meta

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Related Changes in Gerrit:
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Update cxserver to 2025-03-03-041049-productionoperations/deployment-chartsmaster+1 -1
knwiki: make google translate option default mediawiki/services/cxservermaster+1 -1
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Anoop created this task.Feb 21 2025, 4:01 PM
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Anoop updated the task description. (Show Details)Feb 21 2025, 4:16 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Feb 24 2025, 9:25 AM

Change #1122089 had a related patch set uploaded (by Anzx; author: Anzx):

[mediawiki/services/cxserver@master] knwiki: disable MinT and Yandex machine translation services

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122089

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Feb 24 2025, 9:25 AM
santhosh subscribed.Feb 25 2025, 4:03 AM

The MT model that MinT uses is indictrans2 model. It was released 2 years back and not getting updates. But Google is actively updating their MT system and it is getting better. While the actual details of its technology is not open, given the LLM advancements, I expect their system is based on LLMs(or distillations).

Instead of disabling MinT altogether, we have the option of making Google as default choice. Currently MinT is the default one - https://cxserver.wikimedia.org/v1/list/mt/en/kn

Anoop added a comment.EditedFeb 25 2025, 4:09 AM
In T387037#10577829, @santhosh wrote:

The MT model that MinT uses is indictrans2 model. It was released 2 years back and not getting updates. But Google is actively updating their MT system and it is getting better. While the actual details of its technology is not open, given the LLM advancements, I expect their system is based on LLMs(or distillations).

Instead of disabling MinT altogether, we have the option of making Google as default choice. Currently MinT is the default one - https://cxserver.wikimedia.org/v1/list/mt/en/kn

Thanks for sharing your input, I have already added patch to remove Mint and Yandex translation from wiki as both seem redundant to keep on wiki, i have updated it to make Google translate option default

Nikerabbit triaged this task as Medium priority.Feb 27 2025, 9:08 AM
Nikerabbit edited projects, added CX-cxserver; removed ContentTranslation.
Nikerabbit added a project: LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar).
gerritbot added a comment.Feb 27 2025, 11:55 AM

Change #1122089 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/services/cxserver@master] knwiki: make google translate option default

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122089

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Feb 27 2025, 12:30 PM
Nikerabbit moved this task from Backlog to Machine Translation on the CX-cxserver board.Feb 27 2025, 12:57 PM
Nikerabbit moved this task from Backlog to Pending Deployment on the LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar) board.
Nikerabbit set the point value for this task to 1.
Nikerabbit added a project: Unplanned-Sprint-Work.
KartikMistry claimed this task.Feb 28 2025, 4:48 AM
Anoop renamed this task from Disable MinT and Yandex machine translation services in the Content Translation tool on Kannada Wikipedia to Set Google machine default in the Content Translation tool on Kannada Wikipedia.Feb 28 2025, 4:53 AM
Anoop renamed this task from Set Google machine default in the Content Translation tool on Kannada Wikipedia to Set Google machine translation option as default in the Content Translation tool on Kannada Wikipedia.
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 3 2025, 7:16 AM

Change #1123940 had a related patch set uploaded (by KartikMistry; author: KartikMistry):

[operations/deployment-charts@master] Update cxserver to 2025-03-03-041049-production

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1123940

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 3 2025, 7:16 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 4 2025, 5:32 AM

Change #1123940 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/deployment-charts@master] Update cxserver to 2025-03-03-041049-production

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1123940

Stashbot mentioned this in T369815: Enable in content Translation the new languages Google Translate supports in June 2024.Mar 4 2025, 5:53 AM

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-03-04T05:53:43Z] <kart_> Updated cxserver to 2025-03-03-041049-production (T369815, T387037)

KartikMistry moved this task from Pending Deployment to Done on the LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar) board.Mar 4 2025, 5:54 AM
Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 4 2025, 6:30 AM
Nikerabbit closed this task as Resolved.Mar 10 2025, 9:02 AM
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