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Mandarin Translation Issue (zh-hans, zh-hant are not seprated handle properly) in WikiLearn
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Description

WikiLearn course translations happen through Metawiki

Report received from @Supaplex. Quoting pertinent portions of the email:

Metawiki only enables zh translation, zh-tw, or zh-cn is not available and forced to translate in zh only. This setting will work on meta because meta has added and enabled a zh conversion tool to deal with the simplified Chinese and traditional Chinese display for Chinese and Taiwanese access.

However, If we use Metawiki as a translation tools, this will make the localization of zh-cn, zh-tw not possible due to Metawiki settings for translation.

One solution is to make a special privilege of zh-tw translation on meta for WikiLearn, enable the zh-hant and zh-hans translation options for the WikiLearn UI

Another optional is to enable zh conversion mode on WikiLearn, which I doubled due to WIkiLearn is no a MediaWiki website. Or use translatewiki which separated zh-hans and zh-hant translation, or a special PO file of zh-hant to deal with zh-hant translation

If the translation issues are fixed, I am also looking forward to localizing the WikiLearn content to Taiwanesse Mandarin. So I cc some other Wikimedia Taiwan staff and member

We're planning to enable message bundle translations to Chinese variants on Metawiki by modifying the related configuration.

Details

Related Changes in Gerrit:
SubjectAuthorRepoBranchLines +/-
metawiki: Enable Chinese variant translation for message bundlesAbijeet Patrooperations/mediawiki-configmaster+80 -38
Customize query in gerrit

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abi_ created this task.Feb 25 2025, 5:07 PM
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gerritbot added a comment.Feb 25 2025, 5:19 PM

Change #1122632 had a related patch set uploaded (by Abijeet Patro; author: Abijeet Patro):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] metawiki: Enable Chinese variant translation for message bundles

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122632

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Feb 25 2025, 5:19 PM
abi_ added a project: LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar).Feb 25 2025, 5:45 PM
abi_ moved this task from Backlog to In Progress on the LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar) board.
• Nikerabbit added a project: Unplanned-Sprint-Work.Feb 26 2025, 7:47 AM
Winston_Sung added a project: Wikimedia Taiwan.Feb 27 2025, 2:17 AM
Winston_Sung moved this task from Backlog to Site configuration on the Wikimedia Taiwan board.Feb 27 2025, 2:19 AM
S8321414 subscribed.Feb 28 2025, 1:26 AM
abi_ moved this task from In Progress to Pending Deployment on the LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar) board.Mar 4 2025, 11:18 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Mar 5 2025, 2:33 PM

Change #1122632 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] metawiki: Enable Chinese variant translation for message bundles

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1122632

Stashbot added a comment.Mar 5 2025, 2:52 PM

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-03-05T14:52:02Z] <dreamyjazz@deploy2002> Finished scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1122632|metawiki: Enable Chinese variant translation for message bundles (T387230)]] (duration: 18m 29s)

abi_ moved this task from Pending Deployment to Need QA on the LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar) board.EditedMar 5 2025, 3:16 PM

This change has been deployed on metawiki, and it should be possible to translate message bundles to Chinese variants if the message bundle allows it. For example, this message bundle does not have zh-tw in the list of priority languages yet.

QA Note

Will coordinate and get this QA'ed by the community.

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Mar 5 2025, 3:31 PM
abi_ added a comment.Mar 17 2025, 6:21 AM
In T387230#10605776, @abi_ wrote:

This change has been deployed on metawiki, and it should be possible to translate message bundles to Chinese variants if the message bundle allows it. For example, this message bundle does not have zh-tw in the list of priority languages yet.

QA Note

Will coordinate and get this QA'ed by the community.

Waiting for response from the community and the Edly team.

abi_ added a comment.Mar 24 2025, 5:16 AM

There's some discussion going on with the Edly team on which language code to use for zh-tw .

• Nikerabbit changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Apr 1 2025, 10:08 AM
abi_ added a comment.Apr 8 2025, 1:02 PM
In T387230#10666426, @abi_ wrote:

There's some discussion going on with the Edly team on which language code to use for zh-tw .

This discussion is still on-going via email.

• Nikerabbit moved this task from Need QA to Done on the LPL Essential (LPL Essential 2025 Feb-Mar) board.Apr 14 2025, 11:28 AM
• Nikerabbit closed this task as Resolved.Apr 23 2025, 8:16 AM
Winston_Sung subscribed.May 14 2025, 2:25 AM

Still not work due to the abuse filter rules:

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseFilter/328

Pppery subscribed.May 14 2025, 3:04 AM

That's a completely independent issue and not controlled by people on Phabricator. Please bring it up somewhere on Meta-Wiki, like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_help_from_a_sysop_or_bureaucrat

Winston_Sung added a comment.May 14 2025, 3:12 AM

Yeah, I know, so I didn't reopen the task. Just note it here for reference.

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