key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants and for W = ಔ and Y = ಐClosed, ResolvedPublicActions

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 • bzimport May 11 2012, 3:55 AM2012-05-11 03:55:00 (UTC+0)
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Author: teju2friends

Description:
Add key combination to make letter ಹ combined with other Consonants.
Proposed key combination: ~h

Example usage:

1. ಅದ್ಹೇಗೆ

ದ + ಹ = ದ್ಹ
d~ha = ದ್ಹ

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 22 2014, 12:28 AM
bzimport set Reference to bz36752.

I tried adding ['~h', '', 'ಹ'], as a rule and did got ~h transliterated as ಹ. Are you sure d~ha gives ದ್ಹ ? Per rule added d~h gives ದ್ಹ and d~ha gives ದ್ಹಾ

Please tell which of these is correct. If you want d~ha = ದ್ಹ then probably one more rule needs to be modified.

teju2friends wrote:

Please tell which of these is correct. If you want d~ha = ದ್ಹ then probably one
more rule needs to be modified.

Some more examples:
d~h = ದ್ಹ್
d~ha = ದ್ಹ
d~he = ದ್ಹೆ
d~ho = ದ್ಹೊ

teju2friends wrote:

Also, two of key combinations which were there before Narayam implementation are missing;

W = ಔ
Y = ಐ

Please refer "ಸ್ವರಾಕ್ಷರಗಳು (Vowels)" section of help file for transliteration
http://kn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:ಲಿಪ್ಯಂತರ

teju2friends wrote:

I tried adding ['~h', '', 'ಹ'], as a rule and did got ~h transliterated as ಹ.

Please try ಹ್ in place of ಹ( ['~h', '','ಹ್'], )

I tried adding ['~h', '', 'ಹ'], as a rule and did got ~h transliterated as ಹ.

Please try ಹ್ in place of ಹ( ['~h', '','ಹ್'], )

If I understand correctly, this is a ha with virama. I added it and it seems to work.

Also, two of key combinations which were there before Narayam implementation
are missing;

W = ಔ
Y = ಐ

Changing the bug title to reflect the additional request.

Can you please give some a sample string for unit test for W and Y along with the transliterated input?

ex:- Yeso for ಐಎಸೊ. Are there cases where these characters come in middle of a word and change the glyphs?

Also are these combination standard in kannada transliteration, as 'ai' gives ಐ and 'au' gives 'ಔ' already.

teju2friends wrote:

Can you please give some a sample string for unit test for W and Y along with
the transliterated input?

nAkYdu = ನಾಕೈದು
ಗೌತಮ್ = gWtam

teju2friends wrote:

Also,

W = ಔ
Y = ಐ
Ydu = ಐದು
kY = ಕೈ
kW = ಕೌ

Can you please give some a sample string for unit test for W and Y along with
the transliterated input?

nAkYdu = ನಾಕೈದು
ಗೌತಮ್ = gWtam

Isn't it good enough to write "nAkaidu" and "gautam"? It produces the same results and it is implemented already.

Are these W and Y letters based on some other transliteration standard or just the old typing script in the Kannada Wikipedia?

Added nAkaidu , auShadhi and gautam also to the test cases. See . https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9740

Alternate key combinations are fine. But since they are not obvious( in phonetical way) to the users, it must be documented well. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Narayam/Kannada/Transliteration need some help - First of all it should be in English, and the kannada version should be translated from English version. And it should be updated to reflect this change.

Merged. Thanks for the contribution!

teju2friends wrote:

Isn't it good enough to write "nAkaidu" and "gautam"? It produces the same
results and it is implemented already.

W and Y are added to achieve minimum key stroke. This was there before Narayam implementation.

Are these W and Y letters based on some other transliteration standard

No

or just the old typing script in the Kannada Wikipedia?

Yes. Old script was fine tuned to balance between phonetical & minimum keys.

Added nAkaidu , auShadhi and gautam also to the test cases. See .
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9740

W = ಔ
Y = ಐ
Ydu = ಐದು
kY = ಕೈ
kW = ಕೌ
nAkYdu = ನಾಕೈದು
ಗೌತಮ್ = gWtam

Alternate key combinations are fine. But since they are not obvious( in
phonetical way) to the users, it must be documented well.

Merged. Thanks for the contribution!

Thanks! ~h is working as expected. Please update W and Y too.

Merged. Thanks for the contribution!

Thanks! ~h is working as expected. Please update W and Y too.

~h is working because it was deployed weeks back in 1.20wmf4. The fix for W and Y just got merged and will be deployed in the next deployment window. Mostly next Tuesday

teju2friends wrote: