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Introducing pseudo IDs "oldest" and "latest" to access oldest or latest revision of article - for views and diff views
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Author: jylee

Description:
I would like some way to skip all the history to the first person who created
the page instead of going through all of the history.


Version: unspecified
Severity: enhancement

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bzimport created this task.Apr 14 2005, 6:07 AM

(Something for Brion ?)

In addition:

I propose to introduce

title=article&curid=1

or

title=article&curid=first

curid=0 cannot be used, as this indicates the current version, as far as I
understood.

I do not understand, why &curid=1 added to an article link points to a totally
different page

brion added a comment.Apr 14 2005, 8:09 AM

Tom, it looks like you have your variables mixed up.

curid refers to a page_id (cur_id in <1.5) and is the unique ID number of a
particular page within the database. If you specify a curid parameter on a view
URL, it overrides the given title. This is used on Special:Recentchanges items for
pages to handle things being renamed, as I recall. Specifying curid=1 thus gives
you whichever page was the first to be inserted into the database (unless that
page has been deleted, in which case you get nothing.)

oldid refers to a particular revision's rev_id (old_id in <1.5), and is the unique ID
number of a particular revision within the database. Specifying oldid=1 thus gives
you whichever page revision was the first revision of any page to ever be inserted
into the database (unless that page has been deleted, in which case you get
nothing).

Note that this is *not* a sequence number within a particular page's history. No
such sequence numbers are recorded in the database.

There is a special URL parameter value, oldid=0, which is used in <1.5 when
generating diff links to the current version of the given page (because no old_id
number existed for current revisions due to the old database schema).

(In reply to comment #2)

curid refers to a page_id (cur_id in <1.5) and is the unique ID number of a
particular page within the database. If you specify a curid parameter on a view
URL, it overrides the given title.

... this is exactly, what I noticed.

oldid refers to a particular revision's rev_id (old_id in <1.5), and is the

unique ID

number of a particular revision within the database. Specifying oldid=1 thus

gives

you whichever page revision was the first revision of any page to ever be

inserted

into the database (unless that page has been deleted, in which case you get
nothing).

Thus ......./wiki/index.php?title=anything&oldid=1 shows the first page ever
added to the database.

So, the answer to the question of the bugzilla poster (not me), is: according to
Brion's answer in versions < 1.5, you can unfortunately NOT directly link to the
let's say first (initial) revision of a page.

If I understand Brion correctly, the same will also be true for versions >= 1.5.

Attention Brion:
I would like to suggest to introduce a mechanism (query string) - let's say
diff=0&curid=0 - which solves this problem of Jason Lee and which allows to
point to the initial version of a page X.

Tom

I amended the title to better reflect what was originally requested (by Jason
Lee). The title is now brought into conformity with
http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181 Assign lasting ID to latest
revision of articles (which is fixed in REL1_5 accoring to Brion's note there).

Brion,
it would be a big help and solving this bugzilla and bugzilla 181 to introduce
two PSEUDO-oldid "oldest" and "latest" (or "recent" or "current")

This would allow to construct links

a) to the direct view of the first revision (when the page was created)

http://server/wiki/index.php?title=foo&oldid=oldest (the number oldid being

unknown when constructing the link blindly)

b) bugzilla 181 = view the current revision

http://server/wiki/index.php?title=foo&oldid=latest (the number oldid being

unknown when constructing the link blindly)

c) to show the difference between the both,

i.e. one can construct a direct link to the difference view between the

LATEST and the OLDEST revision

http://server/wiki/index.php?title=foo&diff=0&oldid=oldest

Can you help ? It would be great ...

amending the title again

avarab wrote:

Using the CVS HEAD and BASE keywords would be more familar.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

This has been implemented on &action=history "(Latest |
Earliest)". Thus I close this bug.

gangleri wrote:

(In reply to comment #7)

This has been implemented on &action=history "(Latest |
Earliest)". Thus I close this bug.

Latest: action=history
Earliest: go=first&action=history as in
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&go=first&action=history