backfillLocalAccounts.php can fail to backfill the account on loginwiki/metawiki because the autocreation is prevented by a permission check, block or abuse filter. Should we prevent that? Or prevent that on loginwiki only (on account of vandalism being less of a problem there than on metawiki)?
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| Status | Subtype | Assigned | Task | ||
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| Open | None | T220769 Account created without having a loginwiki or metawiki automatically created | |||
| Open | None | T394733 Consider ignoring permission checks in backfillLocalAccounts.php |
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- T411826: MediaWiki periodic job centralauth-backfilllocalaccounts.php-loginwiki failed
T393656: Some newly created accounts are not created on loginwiki/metawiki (wgCentralAuthAutoCreateWikis) - Mentioned Here
- T371267: Create a script to backfill missing local accounts on loginwiki/metawiki for new global accounts
T378401: Start running backfillLocalAccounts.php
T393656: Some newly created accounts are not created on loginwiki/metawiki (wgCentralAuthAutoCreateWikis)
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Tgr added a subtask: T371267: Create a script to backfill missing local accounts on loginwiki/metawiki for new global accounts.May 19 2025, 8:23 PM2025-05-19 20:23:02 (UTC+0)
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In T393656#10804189, @NicoScribe wrote:So the backfill jobs have been run several times to repair the following cases. Do you have logs showing the cause, when a backfill fails?
1 account for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Jenikipedia
2 accounts for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Furkan2525
2 accounts for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Nisapro
2 accounts for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Robertlanelilly
2 accounts for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Robertlane2031
2 accounts for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Fjshuxicjeb1
2 accounts for https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/BobDobolina1
In T393656#10812030, @ArielGlenn wrote:https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378401#10307273 for more about the backfill script and what it skips when doing autocreates; this can be revisited if appropriate.
In T393656#10804485, @Tgr wrote:Maybe we should pass UltimateAuthority as the performer for the backfill script. Not 100% sure about meta, but at least on loginwiki I imagine we'd prefer the account to be created, even if it's blocked or prevented by some other rule.
In T393656#10813439, @Tgr wrote:I think this is ultimately a question for stewards, as they are the target audience for these autocreations: when a user registers successfully on some wiki, but their local account on metawiki and/or loginwiki cannot be created because of some local rule (block, abusefilter etc), what would be your preferred outcome for the backfill script (T371267: Create a script to backfill missing local accounts on loginwiki/metawiki for new global accounts)? Obeying the rule or overriding it and creating the account anyway?
• Krinkle moved this task from Inbox, needs triage to Not planned (Patches welcome!) on the MediaWiki-Platform-Team board.May 26 2025, 2:57 PM2025-05-26 14:57:01 (UTC+0)