Allow itwiki bureaucrat to remove sysop permission
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	May 20 2025, 9:10 AM

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Due to the outcome of the first part (sysop rights removal) of this on-wiki discussion
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_Wikipedia:Amministratori#Proposta_1:_Rimozione_del_flag_nei_casi_previsti_da_parte_dei_burocrati_senza_passare_da_metawiki
I am asking for a MediaWiki InitialiseSettings.php configuration change that allows local bureaucrats to not only assign, but also remove the 'sysop' user right.

wgRemoveGroups @
'+itwiki' => [
		'bureaucrat' => [ 'rollbacker', 'autopatrolled', 'mover' ], // T55913, T102770
-->
		'bureaucrat' => [ 'rollbacker', 'autopatrolled', 'mover', 'sysop' ], // T55913, T102770,  T394752

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	Allow itwiki bureaucrat to remove sysop permission	operations/mediawiki-config	master	+1 -1

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M7 created this task.May 20 2025, 9:10 AM

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The thread specifically does not discuss the interface-admin role, but only the admin right.

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Change #1148299 had a related patch set uploaded (by SimmeD; author: Simeon Dahl):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Allow itwiki bureaucrat to remove sysop permission

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1148299

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SimmeD claimed this task.May 20 2025, 11:05 AM

Just a reminder from "Limits to configuration changes":

Allow bureaucrats to remove administrator permissions
While bureaucrats on some wikis can revoke the administrator flag, at most wikis this is the responsibility of stewards. In order for this kind of request to be accepted, the wiki should be large—with multiple active bureaucrats—and be able to demonstrate a real need for the change. In smaller wikis this ability is prone to abuse by bureaucrats wishing to usurp the power of the community to decide on issues of adminship.

configuration change that allows local bureaucrats to not only assign, but also remove the 'interface-admin' user right

Bureaucrats can already remove interface-admin. I think you meant admin here.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:ElencoPermessiGruppi#bureaucrat

M7 updated the task description. (Show Details)May 20 2025, 12:58 PM

In T394752#10838710, @Nemoralis wrote:

configuration change that allows local bureaucrats to not only assign, but also remove the 'interface-admin' user right

Bureaucrats can already remove interface-admin. I think you meant admin here.
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciale:ElencoPermessiGruppi#bureaucrat

Yes, thanks for highlighting the error. I have corrected the description.

Ciao,
M/

Nemoralis unsubscribed.May 25 2025, 8:40 AM

Change #1148299 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] Allow itwiki bureaucrat to remove sysop permission

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1148299

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-05-29T13:28:55Z] <taavi@deploy1003> Started scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1148299|Allow itwiki bureaucrat to remove sysop permission (T394752)]]

Maintenance_bot removed a project: Patch-For-Review.May 29 2025, 1:30 PM

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-05-29T13:31:07Z] <taavi@deploy1003> simmed, taavi: Backport for [[gerrit:1148299|Allow itwiki bureaucrat to remove sysop permission (T394752)]] synced to the testservers (see https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mwdebug). Changes can now be verified there.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-05-29T13:39:08Z] <taavi@deploy1003> Finished scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1148299|Allow itwiki bureaucrat to remove sysop permission (T394752)]] (duration: 10m 13s)

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