I see a follow up on this request on Translatewiki support page, more details on user @Zolgoyo's talk page. Sharing a link here for the record: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#Request_to_rename_[crh-RO]

What are the differences between Romanian Crimean Tatar (crh-ro) and the existing Latin-script Crimean Tatar (crh-latn)? I’m not sure if they can be automated – I looked up all existing language converters, and apart from Chinese (in whose case I’m not entirely sure what’s going on) all convert between alphabets, not geographic variants.

@Tacsipacsi The variant shows actually differences in many grammatical, phonetic, orthographic, terminologic and etc. ways. However, I think we don't have other option.

It may well be that it looks like the best option, but if it’s impossible, then it’s not an option. You do have other options, two that come to my mind being:

• a completely separate Wikipedia;
• pages manually translated to the both dialects that live in the same wiki (but on different pages).

P.S. The Differences link in the task description is very hard to read. Based on the file name (promptData.ts), it’s probably meant to be read by chat bots, not by humans – probably chat bots can indeed easily interpret it; I can’t.

@Tacsipacsi Good options, however a separate Wikipedia is not possible, we don't have a separate language code.

The manual translation can be a possibility, but we will need a space name something like ''RO:'', to avoid misunderstandings. Also to allow the interface language crh-ro in crh-wiki will be important.
OR EVEN by choosing the crh-ro as a interface language, it needs to show only the articles with that space name. (Maybe also the logo?: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-djt.svg)

I don't know, will be something like that possible?

In T396286#11288450, @Zolgoyo wrote:

a separate Wikipedia is not possible, we don't have a separate language code.

You do have a separate language code: crh-ro counts as a language code. https://be-tarask.wikipedia.org is similarly a variant of https://be.wikipedia.org (in that case, a spelling variant rather than a regional variant, but this doesn’t matter). The drawback of this solution, though, is that you’ll end up with two recent changes feeds, two sets of admins, two village pumps, two user talk pages for everyone etc.

Also to allow the interface language crh-ro in crh-wiki will be important.

Interface translation can happen even without an intention of a new Wikipedia, as long as you can convince the translatewiki.net people that your request is serious, so this should be no problem. (And, of course, it’s needed whichever solution you choose, so it should be no question.)

OR EVEN by choosing the crh-ro as a interface language, it needs to show only the articles with that space name. (Maybe also the logo?: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-djt.svg)

I don’t think it’s possible right now, but probably still easier to do than the language converter.

In T396286#11288453, @Tacsipacsi wrote:

In T396286#11288450, @Zolgoyo wrote:

a separate Wikipedia is not possible, we don't have a separate language code.

You do have a separate language code: crh-ro counts as a language code.

It does for technical purposes, but not necessarily for language proposal policy purposes. We (langcom) do have some leeway to approve projects without their own ISO 639 code, but with a valid variant code, but in practice the threshold for doing so is very high.

@Tacsipacsi @jhsoby Ok, it seems it's a large problem. Now I did try to create article in Romanian standard (with something like spacename "R:"), see: https://crh.wikipedia.org/wiki/R:d%C3%BAniya

We may accept that kind of use? Until we found something better. But the interface language is not active in Wikipedia. Would be possible to add it? With the name Kîrîm Tatarşa (Rumaniye)?

In T396286#11288470, @jhsoby wrote:

It does for technical purposes, but not necessarily for language proposal policy purposes. We (langcom) do have some leeway to approve projects without their own ISO 639 code, but with a valid variant code, but in practice the threshold for doing so is very high.

I see. Being on Phabricator, I was thinking too much with a technical point of view…

In T396286#11307253, @Zolgoyo wrote:

@Tacsipacsi @jhsoby Ok, it seems it's a large problem. Now I did try to create article in Romanian standard (with something like spacename "R:"), see: https://crh.wikipedia.org/wiki/R:d%C3%BAniya

We may accept that kind of use? Until we found something better.

I’d probably add a real namespace: that would group these articles better, automatically capitalize titles (i.e. automatically turn R:dúniya into R:Dúniya), and could make hiding the namespace less hackish using https://crh.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaViki:Common.css (at least in browsers – as far as I know, Common.css doesn’t load in mobile apps). See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes for how to ask adding a new namespace (please create a new task to make things easier to follow).

But the interface language is not active in Wikipedia. Would be possible to add it? With the name Kîrîm Tatarşa (Rumaniye)?

That’s totally up to the translatewiki.net admins (I’m not one of them), I see no technical reason against it. Maybe you should follow up at https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#Request_for_crh-RO_%22Crimean_Tatar_(Romania)%22, in case just no admin noticed it.

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408284

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408322