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Change of Gothic language name
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Hello, I am opening up a task because there has been a problem for a longer time with the localized name for the Gothic language.

Unfortunately "Gothic" as a language is not attested in this language, but we can make some estimations of what the language could have been called.

Currently, πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊ (Gutisk) is used for the name of the language across Wikipedia.

This is the adjective 'Gothic' in Gothic treated as a neuter noun, comparable to how this is done in English with some modern languages. It's not the name of the language, as this is just an adjective in Gothic. *πŒ²πŒΏπ„π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ° (Gutrazda) (literally: Goth-language) is more likely by analogy with the attested *GutΓΎiuda (literally: Goth-people or Goth-nation), attested in the calendar of martyrs, besides that Razda Gutiska (literally: Gothic language) or Razda Gutane (literally: language of the Goths) are at least plausible or grammatical.

There was a discussion back in 2018 on a change for how the language is called, but we could start a new community discussion if this is necessary.

The question is if the current usage of πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊ could be replaced with one of the suggestions above like πŒ²πŒΏπ„π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ°, which is more plausible to be used in the language for the language itself.

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Does a new community discussion have to be put up for this task?

./mediawiki-core/includes/languages/data/Names.php:		'got' => 'πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊ', # Gothic
./mediawiki-extensions/ContentTranslation/app/dist/cx3.es.js:    "πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊ"
./mediawiki-extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/lib/jquery.uls/src/jquery.uls.data.js:         "πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊ"
./mediawiki-extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/lib/jquery.ime/jquery.ime.js:			name: 'πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊπŒ° π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ°',
./mediawiki-extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/lib/jquery.ime/jquery.ime.js:			autonym: 'πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊπŒ° π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ°',
./mediawiki-extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/lib/jquery.ime/rules/got/got-standard.js:	name: 'πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊπŒ° π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ°',
./mediawiki-extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/data/LanguageNameSearchData.php:		'πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊ' => 'got',

Does a new community discussion have to be put up for this task?

What's important is not so much how old is the community's discussion, but the following things:

  • What is the decision about the name? Currently, I see at least two proposals, "πŒ²πŒΏπ„π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ°" or "πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊπŒ° π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ°". (The articles about this language in Wikipedia in some languages says "πŒ²πŒΏπ„πŒΉπƒπŒΊπ‰ π‚πŒ°πŒΆπŒ³πŒ°". I don't know where did it come from.)
  • Is this name used anywhere else in modern literature in or about Gothic, or is the creation of the Gothic Wikipedia editors?