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Change of tagline and wordmark of Gothic Wikipedia
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A few years ago the wordmark for the Gothic Wikipedia was updated in a Phabricator task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341253

Unfortunately there are some problems which need to be resolved. The wordmark was submitted as π…πŒΉπŒΊπŒΉπ€πŒ°πŒΉπŒ³πŒΎπŒ°πŒΉ, this is the dative singular form of Wikipedia in Gothic and not the nominative form which would be used in isolation. This possibly accidentally happened since the dative form is used in the context of a certain phrase on the Gothic wikipedia main page which only people versed in Gothic can recognize as a dative.

Apart from that the text "The free encyclopedia" is currently not included under it.

One of the members of the Gothic language community has redesigned the wordmark so that it shows in the nominative form π…πŒΉπŒΊπŒΉπ€πŒ°πŒΉπŒ³πŒΎπŒ°. He also made an svg file for the tagline saying "the free encyclopedia" under it.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-tagline-got.svg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-wordmark-got.svg

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Peachey88 subscribed.

Hi @Bokareis, Could you please link to some on-wiki discussion showing consensus for this change request?

Hi @Bokareis, Could you please link to some on-wiki discussion showing consensus for this change request?

Can we reply here or do we have to create a discussion on the wiki itself? In any case I'm the one that made the SVG files to replace the current one which like Bokareis said is in the dative case for whatever reason.

Hi @Bokareis, Could you please link to some on-wiki discussion showing consensus for this change request?

I don't think this is a case where consensus is needed. The borrowed word for Wikipedia in Gothic is accepted as Wikipaidja (romanized) and has been used as such for many years (check its logo for instance, using the old theme). Wikipaidja is a feminine noun of the O-stem, which means it declines with -ai in the dative singular (check here). The person who added the wordmark (and the lack of a tagline) seems to have done a very poor job, simply copying the word "Wikipaidjai" from the phrase "Fagino ana Wikipaidjai Gustiskai" on the wiki's main page, which uses the preposition "ana" before "Wikipaidja Gutiska", requiring it to be in the dative case; This is not the case for the use of the noun in isolation (in which case the nominative ("Wikipaidja" is used).

Hi @Bokareis, Could you please link to some on-wiki discussion showing consensus for this change request?

Can we reply here or do we have to create a discussion on the wiki itself? In any case I'm the one that made the SVG files to replace the current one which like Bokareis said is in the dative case for whatever reason.

Per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes , please create a discussion on the wiki

Anoop changed the task status from Open to In Progress.Aug 26 2025, 2:22 AM
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Anoop moved this task from Backlog to Working on on the Wikimedia-Site-requests board.

Change #1182530 had a related patch set uploaded (by Anzx; author: Anzx):

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] gotwiki: update wordmark and add tagline

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1182530

Change #1182530 merged by jenkins-bot:

[operations/mediawiki-config@master] gotwiki: update wordmark and add tagline

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1182530

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-08-28T13:06:37Z] <lucaswerkmeister-wmde@deploy1003> Started scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1182530|gotwiki: update wordmark and add tagline (T402706)]], [[gerrit:1182523|tlwiktionary: set sitename and projectnamespace (T402725)]]

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-08-28T13:12:47Z] <lucaswerkmeister-wmde@deploy1003> lucaswerkmeister-wmde, anzx: Backport for [[gerrit:1182530|gotwiki: update wordmark and add tagline (T402706)]], [[gerrit:1182523|tlwiktionary: set sitename and projectnamespace (T402725)]] synced to the testservers (see https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mwdebug). Changes can now be verified there.

Mentioned in SAL (#wikimedia-operations) [2025-08-28T13:20:44Z] <lucaswerkmeister-wmde@deploy1003> Finished scap sync-world: Backport for [[gerrit:1182530|gotwiki: update wordmark and add tagline (T402706)]], [[gerrit:1182523|tlwiktionary: set sitename and projectnamespace (T402725)]] (duration: 14m 06s)