Logs could still be useful in revert mode when a community is debating changing the cautiousness level.

In T419251#11682559, @Escargot_rouge wrote:

Logs could still be useful in revert mode when a community is debating changing the cautiousness level.

In the way I've set this task out this would only help with raising the threshold, because you'd only see scores for edits above the currently defined threshold. An alternative would be allowing Automoderator to actively revert at one threshold, but log at a different threshold/configuration, perhaps? That might get a bit complex in terms of UI. It could also score every edit, regardless of score, but that seems more like a model score storage problem, which I don't think Automoderator should be in charge of solving.

An alternative would be allowing Automoderator to actively revert at one threshold, but log at a different threshold/configuration, perhaps?

I think that would be great but as an expansion to logging mode.

@Samwalton9-WMF

What do we want the log action and action type to be?
See here for an example: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Log_actions.

Hmm. Based on this and more examples, perhaps:
Log action: revert_decision
Log type: automoderator

@Samwalton9-WMF

It does not appear that external links are allowed to be rendered in log lines, should we update the link to be a local one that then redirects to mediawiki https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Moderator_Tools/Automoderator?

Huh, interesting. Creating that redirect on each wiki might be a pain. I'm happy to drop the 'learn more' part of the summary.

In T419251#11748539, @Samwalton9-WMF wrote:

Huh, interesting. Creating that redirect on each wiki might be a pain. I'm happy to drop the 'learn more' part of the summary.

Sounds good, I'll leave it out.

Change #1261421 had a related patch set uploaded (by Kgraessle; author: Kgraessle):

[mediawiki/extensions/AutoModerator@master] Enable Automoderator to log reverts it would take instead of reverting

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1261421

Change #1261495 had a related patch set uploaded (by Kgraessle; author: Kgraessle):

[mediawiki/extensions/AutoModerator@master] DNM branch for patch demo testing

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1261495

Change #1261495 abandoned by Kgraessle:

[mediawiki/extensions/AutoModerator@master] DNM branch for patch demo testing

Reason:

N/A

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1261495

I am seeing an empty i18n string in Special:Log when I filter by AutoModerator logs.

@Samwalton9-WMF

What would we like the log description message to be?
Maybe something like:
"This is a log of edits that AutoModerator would have reverted."

For example, this message would be displayed above the Special:Log form.

Today I Learned each log has its own description! Building on your suggestion with a little more specificity, since we can be wordy here:

This is a log of edits that Automoderator would have reverted, given its configuration at the time of the log entry.

And link Automoderator to the CC form. If this is wiki markup then I guess that would be [[Special:CommunityConfiguration/AutoModerator|Automoderator]] or [[Special:CommunityConfiguration/AutomoderatorMultilingual|Automoderator]] as appropriate.

In T419251#11772243, @Samwalton9-WMF wrote:

Today I Learned each log has its own description! Building on your suggestion with a little more specificity, since we can be wordy here:

This is a log of edits that Automoderator would have reverted, given its configuration at the time of the log entry.

And link Automoderator to the CC form. If this is wiki markup then I guess that would be [[Special:CommunityConfiguration/AutoModerator|Automoderator]] or [[Special:CommunityConfiguration/AutomoderatorMultilingual|Automoderator]] as appropriate.

This message is being constructed in the LogPage.php file here. It does not appear to support adding parameters or overrides, so unless there's a way to add this in wiki text I don't think we can customize it based on the multilingual configuration.

Ah - does that apply to the log message too (where we also wanted to include a link to the CC form)?

In T419251#11772459, @Samwalton9-WMF wrote:

Ah - does that apply to the log message too (where we also wanted to include a link to the CC form)?

We're able to override the log message with params, though right now the standard is that the acting user's username goes to their user page so I realize that's different than what is in the acceptance criteria is, hmmm... Do we want to deviate from standard log format or go to the community configuration page?
See example here:

Just to clarify - we are able to link this specifically to the local Automoderator username/account?

When I wrote that log message proposal I was looking at some other messages that weren't user-specific, e.g.:

I see that almost every other log is "User [did something]" though, so I think I'm fine with the way you've done it here!

If it's non-trivial to add parameters to the log description I'm happy to leave it out for now, we could adjust it in the future, and editors can override it locally if they want to make it more descriptive.

In T419251#11772562, @Samwalton9-WMF wrote:

Just to clarify - we are able to link this specifically to the local Automoderator username/account?

When I wrote that log message proposal I was looking at some other messages that weren't user-specific, e.g.:

I see that almost every other log is "User [did something]" though, so I think I'm fine with the way you've done it here!

Ok, sounds fine to me, thanks for catching that though!

If it's non-trivial to add parameters to the log description I'm happy to leave it out for now, we could adjust it in the future, and editors can override it locally if they want to make it more descriptive.

Sounds good, so just to clarify the log description would be:

This is a log of edits that Automoderator would have reverted, given its configuration at the time of the log entry.

without the link to the community configuration form?

In T419251#11772639, @Kgraessle wrote:

Sounds good, so just to clarify the log description would be:

This is a log of edits that Automoderator would have reverted, given its configuration at the time of the log entry.

without the link to the community configuration form?

Yep!

Change #1261421 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/extensions/AutoModerator@master] Enable Automoderator to log reverts it would take instead of reverting

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1261421