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10 year old ghost notification from wikitech appearing on other wikis is not dismissable
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Description

Steps to replicate the issue (include links if applicable):

  • Be logged in as me (User:Robbi5) at a wmf wiki (e.g. dewiki, simplewiki, commons, test2 - but not enwiki or wikitech)
  • See a 1 at the bell (Your alerts) and the inbox (Your notices) icons on the top of the page
  • Click on both
  • See an alert/notice from another wiki: Wikitech (alert: 1 year old, notice: 10 years old) - see screenshots below, there are no more details
  • Open Wikitech Notifications page: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Notifications
  • Zero Notifications are available, no read, no unread

What happens?:

On different - but not all - wmf wikis (tested with simplewiki, dewiki, commons, test2) the alert/notice for the no longer existing(?) wikitech notification appears. Interestingly on enwiki I don't get the alert/notice.

Clicking on the read-dot on the top right hides it for the current open page in the browser, after reopening the alert/notice popup it appears again - unread.

What should have happened instead?:

No notifications that are no longer there should be alerted on other wikis that are not wikitech.

Software version (on Special:Version page; skip for WMF-hosted wikis like Wikipedia): n/a, simplewiki, dewiki, commons, wikitech

Other information (browser name/version, screenshots, etc.):

Screenshot 2026-07-16 at 17.24.23.png (1,046×630 px, 56 KB)
Screenshot 2026-07-16 at 17.24.30.png (1,046×630 px, 57 KB)

The notification is loaded by the following requests:

https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&formatversion=2&meta=notifications&notsections=alert&notformat=model&notlimit=25&notprop=list%7Ccount%7CseenTime&uselang=en&notcrosswikisummary=1&notunreadfirst=1&notbundle=1&_=1784216506512
x-request-id: c2f6f9ec-8f34-4906-8cec-a8aeaf3ae76e

{
  "batchcomplete": true,
  "query": {
      "notifications": {
          "list": [
              {
                  "wiki": "simplewiki",
                  "id": -1,
                  "type": "foreign",
                  "category": "other",
                  "section": "alert",
                  "timestamp": {
                      "utciso8601": "2025-02-10T17:26:53Z",
                      "utcunix": 1739208413,
                      "unix": "1739208413",
                      "utcmw": "20250210172653",
                      "mw": "20250210172653",
                      "date": "10 February"
                  },
                  "agent": {
                      "id": 1839194,
                      "name": "Robbi5"
                  },
                  "targetpages": [],
                  "*": {
                      "header": "More alerts from another wiki",
                      "compactHeader": "More alerts from another wiki",
                      "body": "Wikitech",
                      "icon": "global",
                      "links": {
                          "primary": [],
                          "secondary": []
                      },
                      "iconUrl": "/w/extensions/Echo/modules/icons/global-progressive.svg"
                  },
                  "count": 1,
                  "sources": {
                      "labswiki": {
                          "title": "Wikitech",
                          "url": "https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/api.php",
                          "base": "https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1",
                          "ts": "2025-02-10T17:26:53Z"
                      }
                  }
              }
          ],
          "continue": null,
          "rawcount": 1,
          "count": "1",
          "seenTime": {
              "alert": "2026-07-16T15:39:50Z"
          }
      }
  }
}

https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&meta=notifications&notsections=alert&notgroupbysection=1&notmessageunreadfirst=1&notlimit=25&notprop=count&uselang=en&notcrosswikisummary=1&_=1784216506511
x-request-id: f7c47bdf-8859-4f38-820e-7041cb829f62

{
  "batchcomplete": "",
  "query": {
      "notifications": {
          "alert": {
              "rawcount": 1,
              "count": "1"
          },
          "rawcount": 1,
          "count": "1"
      }
  }
}

https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&formatversion=2&meta=notifications&notsections=message&notformat=model&notlimit=25&notprop=list%7Ccount%7CseenTime&uselang=en&notcrosswikisummary=1&_=1784216506507
x-request-id: 9a0f14bb-99fc-488f-85e8-c2055a72b235

{
  "batchcomplete": true,
  "query": {
      "notifications": {
          "list": [
              {
                  "wiki": "simplewiki",
                  "id": -1,
                  "type": "foreign",
                  "category": "other",
                  "section": "message",
                  "timestamp": {
                      "utciso8601": "2017-01-05T17:57:30Z",
                      "utcunix": 1483639050,
                      "unix": "1483639050",
                      "utcmw": "20170105175730",
                      "mw": "20170105175730",
                      "date": "5 January"
                  },
                  "agent": {
                      "id": 1839194,
                      "name": "Robbi5"
                  },
                  "targetpages": [],
                  "*": {
                      "header": "More notices from another wiki",
                      "compactHeader": "More notices from another wiki",
                      "body": "Wikitech",
                      "icon": "global",
                      "links": {
                          "primary": [],
                          "secondary": []
                      },
                      "iconUrl": "/w/extensions/Echo/modules/icons/global-progressive.svg"
                  },
                  "count": 1,
                  "sources": {
                      "labswiki": {
                          "title": "Wikitech",
                          "url": "https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/api.php",
                          "base": "https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/$1",
                          "ts": "2017-01-05T17:57:30Z"
                      }
                  }
              }
          ],
          "continue": null,
          "rawcount": 1,
          "count": "1",
          "seenTime": {
              "message": "2026-07-16T15:39:49Z"
          }
      }
  }
}

https://simple.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&meta=notifications&notsections=message&notgroupbysection=1&notmessageunreadfirst=1&notlimit=25&notprop=count&uselang=en&notcrosswikisummary=1&_=1784216506508
x-request-id: b9c9c50d-6c0e-4f99-80a0-e3ccbd292307

{
  "batchcomplete": "",
  "query": {
      "notifications": {
          "message": {
              "rawcount": 1,
              "count": "1"
          },
          "rawcount": 1,
          "count": "1"
      }
  }
}