"Mute" button on Echo items that you don't want to hear about anymore (was: Allow excluding pages from the link notifications)
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Discussed at Collaboration team meeting, July 7 2015 -- we may be able to do this with a "Mute" button on Echo items that you don't want to hear about anymore.

Needs more discussion + spec.

I'm getting link notifications for each translation to a page.

For this particular case, the simplest solution is to exclude all translations. When they visit the original, they will still see the translation bar at the top letting them go to their language.

I filed this as a more general bug, since there might be other categories or types of pages to exclude from this notification later.

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Could you be more specific about what caused you to recieved the notification? You created a translation and then someone else linked it from the English version? Wouldn't you normally link translations yourself? I'm not sure I'm really understanding the gist of this bug.

Sorry, I'll clarify. I started Extension:GettingStarted, then I got the notification:

"Extension:GettingStarted was linked by MediaWiki user Guillom, from this page: Wikimedia engineering report/2013/January/summary"

So far, so good.

However, it then began frequently sending me notifications for every translation, such as:

"Extension:GettingStarted was linked by MediaWiki user Ribe, from this page: Wikimedia engineering report/2013/January/summary/da"

Hence, my suggestion is to exclude those translations. Conceptually, they are not new links, but rather just translations of the canonical page's link.

Content model text for translations could perhaps solve this.

bsitu wrote:

Niklas,

Could you shed more light on how Content model text for translations could solve this prolbem?

Thanks,

I assume that no links would be registered when the content model is text, hence no notifications. I have already some hacks in place to prevent translations appearing in categories and similar, but this could be a nice generic solution for these issues.

A userspace-subpage, that acted as a blacklist, would also be good.

A user at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications#Page_links made this comment: "Also, is there any way to turn off notifications for a particular page? Years ago, I was involved in Articles For Creation and created a bunch of articles I have little actual interest in." and also clarified that they would want to list dozens of pages.

I suspect this is a fairly common circumstance, and that enabling users to create their own blacklists would be the best solution.

Spage added a comment.Sep 23 2013, 8:38 PM

Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/flow/cards/196

(In reply to comment #6)

A userspace-subpage, that acted as a blacklist, would also be good.

A user at

Archived at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notifications/Archive_5#Page_links

werdna removed a subscriber: werdna.Dec 10 2014, 5:45 PM

Another request for this feature, at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Notifications&oldid=665367509#Notifications_of_links

Is there some issue with the job queue and notifications of links made to articles one has created? I created the article [[Place du Châtelet]] and recently someone added it to [[Template:Visitor attractions in Paris]] with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Visitor_attractions_in_Paris&diff=656900689&oldid=656556896 this edit]. I am now getting notifications either as the job queue increments or as people edit articles that contain this template, such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%89lys%C3%A9e_Palace&diff=657028747&oldid=643257665 this edit]. Is that expected behaviour? Is there no way to separate out actions prompted by a template call, as opposed to a direct link added to an article? [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 12:25, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

:So since the 16 April, I've been notified 16 times that [[Place du Châtelet]] has been linked from articles contained in [[Template:Visitor attractions in Paris]]. This is mildly annoying. Does anyone know if this has been discussed before - is anyone actually reading this talk page? [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 22:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

::OK, I've now been notified 46 times since 16 April that [[Place du Châtelet]] has been linked from articles contained in [[Template:Visitor attractions in Paris]]. Given that there are around 180 articles contained in that template, should I expect the notifications to continue indefinitely until all those articles have been edited at least once since the original edit I linked above [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Visitor_attractions_in_Paris&diff=656900689&oldid=656556896 this one]? And is this known and expected behaviour for the notifications system? [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 17:02, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

I remember some more requests for this feature, it isn't so rare that it's requested as some of you are thinking.

MGChecker raised the priority of this task from "Low" to "Needs Triage".Jun 23 2015, 6:46 PM
Cirdan added a subscriber: Cirdan.Jun 24 2015, 9:30 PM

I would like to second MGChecker and ask you to consider providing some way of blacklisting certain articles.

For example, in my case I've been around since the early days of the German Wikipedia and authored articles like "sprint", "orange (fruit)" and some other common articles which get linked quite frequently. I don't have any interest in them, since I created them more than 10 years ago. I don't have a lot of edits or article creations, but even I had to turn the feature off because it was very annoying.

Maybe one could also think about changing/extending this feature to allow notifications for articles on the watchlist, instead of newly created ones. Especially during the past years, I've spend much more effort on improving articles than creating new ones, and this will only become more common in the future.

Catrope triaged this task as "High" priority.Jul 1 2015, 11:25 PM
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DannyH changed the title from "Allow excluding pages from the link notifications" to ""Mute" button on Echo items that you don't want to hear about anymore (was: Allow excluding pages from the link notifications)".Jul 7 2015, 6:50 PM
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This is connected with T100528, where some ideas to control the volume of Flow notifications were discussed. We may want to find solutions that are consistent for both cases (not only conversation-related notifications).

Suggestion via IRC, whilst discussing this feature request:
<Hangsna> i created the article "Keyhole Markup Language" in SVWP and now someone is adding a template for KML to a lots of articles and it gets linked all the time. I get new notifications by the minute....
<Hangsna> Also, "grouping afterwards" could be usefull. Now, if i have goten 10 links to a page its grouped together, but the next time i get 1 to the same page its a "new post". Just keep adding it up would prevent me getting the same line one time for every click
<Hangsna> like here: 22 links, 1 link, 5 links and so on....

We discussed this, and one way we could solve this in the short term is by doing T132981: Allow unwatching a page from a page-linked notification in combination with T132980: Only send page-linked notifications for watched pages.

FWIW, I think this should be restricted to the original title.
My personal use-case is: "I've created many disambiguation pages, and I don't want to keep being reminded about them via Echo. But I do want to know when someone links to the more complex articles that I've started. Essentially, a blacklist for page-linked."
However, I don't want to unwatchlist these disambiguation pages, so Catrope's suggestion doesn't work for me.

All I really want, is to be able to create a user subpage blacklist (i.e. one article-title, per line, at [[user:Quiddity/page-linked-ignore]]). Or similar.
This is only a power-user problem, and power-users would generally be fine with a KISS solution.
I vaguely recall discussing this proposed solution in a meeting, but I don't recall the details of why it might not be technically practical?

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