Article namespace moves causing ancient articles to get listed on NewPagesFeed
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Author: jacksonpeebles

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See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Page_Curation#Adam_and_Eve, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Page_Curation#Weird_inclusion_in_feed_list, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Page_Curation/Archive_2#Graham87.27s_Nostalgia_Wiki_imports for more information. The list at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed, when sorted with the Oldest on top, frequently comes up with ancient articles, which is very frustrating when trying to clear a queue.


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URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:NewPagesFeed

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bzimport created this task.Via LegacyMar 21 2013, 5:14 AM
Nischayn22 added a comment.Via ConduitMar 21 2013, 10:50 AM

This is done intentionally by PageTriage (the original developers can put light on why its done so).

Is it not possible to remove it off the list by marking it as reviewed?

Nischayn22 added a comment.Via ConduitMar 21 2013, 10:52 AM

It won't be removed just on marking it as reviewed but that is needed and eventually it would go off when some admin runs the updatePageTriageQueue script.

bzimport added a comment.Via ConduitMar 21 2013, 3:47 PM

jacksonpeebles wrote:

The admins on English Wikipedia have expressed difficulty in fixing the problem. I confirm that, even as a reviewer (thought it might make a difference due to page protection), the page will not go off once reviewed.

Ironholds added a comment.Via ConduitMay 31 2013, 9:28 PM

We're using different terminology, I think :). So, the list of articles to be reviewed is automatically updated. When the update script is run (by the sysadmins), any reviewed old articles should go away.

The underlying problem here is an unintentional consequence of a very important feature of page curation; that, unlike special:newpages, it lists pages /moved/ into the article namespace. It's not something that can easily be fixed, unfortunately.

kaldari added a comment.Via ConduitMay 31 2013, 11:17 PM

I've asked Graham87 to stop moving existing articles out of mainspace in order to merge the histories.

Graham87 added a comment.Via ConduitJun 1 2013, 8:07 AM

I can't necessarily do that without causing even more database wibbles, as I said at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Graham87/Import#Please_don.27t_move_articles_out_of_mainspace_for_history_merges

Can't the algorithm be a bit more intelligent? Like, say, if the page was previously moved twice within five minutes or less from title A to title B then back again, then don't list it on the new pages feed? Or would it be easier to add a target title field to the import special page?

Fortunately I don't need to import pages from the Nostalgia Wikipedia anywhere near as often as I used to.

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