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Enable VisualEditor by default for phase 2 Wikipedias (selected from the "top 10"-ish)
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Description

Currently scheduled for w/c 15 July. It's anticipated that this will not be possible for some wikis due to failings in VisualEditor and/or Parsoid; exact list to be determined closer to the time.


Version: unspecified
Severity: normal
See Also:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51792
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33126
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33077
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52202

Details

Reference
bz49998

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to High.Nov 22 2014, 1:51 AM
bzimport set Reference to bz49998.

According to [[meta:Tech/News/2013/30]] the list is:
German (de),
Spanish (es),
French (fr),
Hebrew (he) - RTL,
Italian (it),
Dutch (nl),
Polish (pl),
Russian (ru) and
Swedish (sv).

Change 75543 had a related patch set uploaded by Jforrester:
VisualEditor into beta on de/es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/svwiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75543

Change 75543 merged by jenkins-bot:
VisualEditor into beta on de/es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/svwiki for logged-in only

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75543

This is now done.

Change 76199 had a related patch set uploaded by Jforrester:
Enable anonymous use of VisualEditor on de/es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/sv

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76199

the German wikipedia just started a quick poll over the weekend to at least postpone this activation for anonymous users on monday:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Umfragen/VisualEditor_Opt-in

the poll has currently also a option for the previous state where VE was Opt-in for users instead of Opt-out if this is still possible.

It would be appreciated to take the outcome on monday into account and postpone this activation for dewiki if desired.

wikipedia wrote:

In the quick poll (see #7) the results at the moment are as following:

  1. enabeling VE as default for all users: 21 votes
  2. VE as default for logged-in users: 6 votes
  3. VE to be opt-in only until all bugs are fixed: 430 votes (!)
  4. enabeling VE under another link name (suggestion was "Visual Editor (beta)" instead of "Bearbeiten" ("edit")): 31 votes

According to this large majority of users who oppose defaulting VE by tomorrow, I hereby ask you to put VE back to opt-in for logged-in users until the most important bugs are fixed. Thank you.

bug 52202 has been created based on the German Wikipedia poll.

(In reply to comment #8)

  1. VE to be opt-in only until all bugs are fixed: 430 votes (!)

Personal opinion: I am not aware of a single software that is proven to be completely bug-free. This is an impossible requirement that cannot be fulfiled.

(In reply to comment #10)

(In reply to comment #8)

  1. VE to be opt-in only until all bugs are fixed: 430 votes (!)

Personal opinion: I am not aware of a single software that is proven to be
completely bug-free. This is an impossible requirement that cannot be
fulfiled.

They more than likely mean all the major bugs that cause issues with editing (eg: dirty diffs, randomly inserting pawns to name two)

wikipedia wrote:

(In reply to comment #11)

They more than likely mean all the major bugs that cause issues with editing
(eg: dirty diffs, randomly inserting pawns to name two)

Exactly, thank you for clarification.

The patch was committed and merged (but the notification bot incorrectly reset the status), so I'm setting this back to FIXED again as the original request that this bug report is about (see subject line) has been fulfiled.
Note that this is not any kind of statement refering to bug 52202, it's just to reflect the current situation. For the German Wikipedia deployment, please refer to bug 52202 instead. Thanks!

(In reply to comment #13)

The patch was committed and merged (but the notification bot incorrectly
reset the status), so I'm setting this back to FIXED again as the original
request that this bug report is about (see subject line) has been fulfilled.

I'm not sure the original request ("top 15" Wikipedias) has been fulfilled, but I'm also not sure that's still the goal. I'll leave this bug to James to sort out.

Change 76199 merged by jenkins-bot:
Enable anonymous use of VisualEditor on es/fr/he/it/pl/ru/sv

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76199

(In reply to comment #14)

(In reply to comment #13)

The patch was committed and merged (but the notification bot incorrectly
reset the status), so I'm setting this back to FIXED again as the original
request that this bug report is about (see subject line) has been fulfilled.

I'm not sure the original request ("top 15" Wikipedias) has been fulfilled,
but I'm also not sure that's still the goal. I'll leave this bug to James to
sort out.

Re-titled for clarity. I feel that this is closed.