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Author: acrush

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Please consider providing wikimedians with crosswiki watchlists. Such could also
be made public as an option.

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Matiia added a subscriber: Matiia.Dec 16 2015, 12:50 AM
Ltrlg added a subscriber: Ltrlg.Dec 16 2015, 4:06 PM
Ata added a subscriber: Ata.Dec 23 2015, 4:29 PM

Crosswatch tool exists.

Johan added a subscriber: Johan.Jan 13 2016, 6:47 AM
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@Sumit @Qgil This is one of the top 10 wishlist projects for Community Tech. We're going to be working on this soon, and coordinating with the TCB's watchlist project. I don't think this is a good project for Hackathon/GSoC.

And too big a task for GSoC as per previous discussions.

To support the cross-wiki watchlist project, we're running a survey about how active contributors use their watchlists. The results will help inform the requirements and design for the cross-wiki watchlist.

I'm sure everybody subscribed on this ticket has opinions about their watchlists :) -- so feel free to participate in the survey:

https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_1BRVhdayaTyuGJ7

It's hosted on a third-party service. We'll be running the survey for about a week, and once it's closed, we'll publish aggregated results on Meta.

If you're interested in how we're going to collect and use the data, here's the Privacy Statement:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Survey_Privacy_Statement_for_March_2016_Watchlist_Survey

Posting a survey announcement is unusual behavior on a Phab ticket, so I hope this doesn't break Phab law in some way. Thanks.

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NMaia added a comment.Jun 3 2016, 1:09 PM

Please consider adding Atom/RSS/XML to this new scheme during development.

In T5525#2352888, @Pikolas wrote:

Please consider adding Atom/RSS/XML to this new scheme during development.

If it's server-side, feeds come "for free" I think.

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Where does this stand? Where does one go to find this out?

The watchlists I want most in my crosswiki watchlist are English Wikipedia (my home wiki) plus the central ones such as MediaWiki.org, Meta, etc..
*https://www.mediawiki.org
*https://meta.wikimedia.org

There is a great need for more participatory international communication to solve common wiki problems, and to energize further wiki creativity. Right now only a relatively few people participate in Meta and Mediawiki.org due to the lack of a crosswiki watchlist.
*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Global,_cross-wiki,_integrated_watchlists

I like opening my commons watchlist separately so that image-related stuff is not mixed in with article stuff.

And why doesn't the Wikimedia Foundation have a wiki and talk pages and a watchlist? Explains why the WMF and its staff can be so clueless at times. They are using WordPress:
*https://wikimediafoundation.org
So there is no way for open discussion there on talk pages by people using single user login from around the world. No ease of use. No anonymity. No way to easily go to a user's home page and see where they are coming from, and why they are making their comments, suggestions, etc..

Where does this stand? Where does one go to find this out?

I think https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Cross-wiki_watchlist#Status was last updated in 2017. Looking through Phabricator, I think this is blocked on T158880: Finalize database implementation plan for cross-wiki watchlists? Maybe someone from Community Tech could clarify.

And why doesn't the Wikimedia Foundation have a wiki and talk pages and a watchlist? Explains why the WMF and its staff can be so clueless at times. They are using WordPress:
*https://wikimediafoundation.org
So there is no way for open discussion there on talk pages by people using single user login from around the world. No ease of use. No anonymity. No way to easily go to a user's home page and see where they are coming from, and why they are making their comments, suggestions, etc..

There's no need to make personal attacks about people being clueless. There's some discussion about the new Wikimedia Foundation website on wikimedia-l, which is a much better venue than Phabricator for those kinds of discussions.

Where does this stand? Where does one go to find this out?

I think https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Tech/Cross-wiki_watchlist#Status was last updated in 2017. Looking through Phabricator, I think this is blocked on T158880: Finalize database implementation plan for cross-wiki watchlists? Maybe someone from Community Tech could clarify.

That's correct. Community Tech also currently does not have the bandwidth to take on that project with all of the other projects we have on our plate, unfortunately. :(

How is it possible that such a frequently-requested feature can be put on the back burner for so many years? It is almost always in the top ten of any survey of user requests. It was number 4 on this community wishlist:
*https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2015/Results

Why can't the WMF make it a priority? It has plenty of money, and there are skilled developers worldwide who could be hired, and who could even work from their home country.

And why, in this day and age, are we using email lists such as wikimedia-l to discuss these issues when we have wikis? It is a catch 22 situation where we need a WMF wiki and a cross-wiki watchlist to discuss this worldwide in a real way.

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