What do you think about the first draft of an "epic" list? I will continue digging in these two areas:

• T597: Identify Arcanist showstoppers for wikimedians
• T167: Align basics of current Gerrit code-review process with Differential

There was a lot of discussion about them last Spring, and I will go through all those comments again to see what looks like a blocker or something we'd better work on sooner than later.

I'll get back to this task after T15: Migrate Bugzilla to Phabricator and T824: Phabricator as Wikimedia software project management tool.

So, I'm still not sure of the usefullness of this. The original intent, I believe, was to get an idea of how 'hard' it was going to be to do this. (iow: "We have 5 epics worth of work, that's 5 x $some_multiple so $some_number_of_months worth of work.") We (RelEng) aren't that sophisticated yet in our forecasting (shame on us, can we get a TPG team member on our team?) and we're plugging ahead (of course, with the RFC (T119908) leading us).

Given 1) the original intent, 2) the current reality of how RelEng works, and 3) the fact that the Gerrit-Migration project is (mostly) well groomed and (mostly) only contains real blockers of the migration... I recommend that this task be closed/resolved.

I will say, while I think this task ran it's course, it was useful and a lot of good work was done to get us to where we are now. Thanks all. :)

In T584#1843538, @greg wrote:

So, I'm still not sure of the usefullness of this. The original intent, I believe, was to get an idea of how 'hard' it was going to be to do this. (iow: "We have 5 epics worth of work, that's 5 x $some_multiple so $some_number_of_months worth of work.") We (RelEng) aren't that sophisticated yet in our forecasting (shame on us, can we get a TPG team member on our team?) and we're plugging ahead (of course, with the RFC (T119908) leading us).

Given 1) the original intent, 2) the current reality of how RelEng works, and 3) the fact that the Gerrit-Migration project is (mostly) well groomed and (mostly) only contains real blockers of the migration... I recommend that this task be closed/resolved.

I will say, while I think this task ran it's course, it was useful and a lot of good work was done to get us to where we are now. Thanks all. :)

The fact that the two things this is meant to block are closed (resolved and duplicate, respectively) is a bad sign…

Not that it matters but yes, I agree that the purpose of this task has been superseded by Gerrit-Migration. When this task was created, our brains were still filled with lots of question marks about the Bugzilla migration, several of them affecting a fuzzier Gerrit migration. The purpose was to have a high level overview of the work that would need to be done, well before a team would commit to start working on it.

You don't know how happy I am that the Gerrit migration is progressing, and I have no merit or responsibility on it. ;)