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Old IE versions in particular have a host of client-side vulnerabilities. We try to mitigate those as much as possible, but since there are so many we won't ever be able to avoid all of them.

One option to prevent these security issues from causing real damage is to stop handing out sessions to old and insecure browsers. According to http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm IE6 for example currently performs only 0.31% of all requests. If we can establish that only a handful active users are actually still using IE6, then we could simply encourage those to upgrade and stop handing out sessions to IE6. Reading will still work, only editing would be disabled for IE6 users.

Advantages:

  • free up resources, can focus on things more relevant to current users
  • lets us get rid of complexity and limitations in the code

Information we need:

  • browser market share of active editors vs. anonymous users, with a focus especially on old browsers
  • Ability to segment data based on geo region, and device class, and zero user status

Nice to have, if possible:

Latest provided data, as of April 2014:

"user_agents.vec""Freq""Percentages"
"Firefox 27"3362826.8950845370059
"Chrome 33"3282026.2488603099957
"Chrome 32"94107.5259529408001
"IE 11"79936.39266119615465
"Firefox 28"32542.60249212214278
"Opera 12"27402.19140393812883
"Safari 7"25492.03864548842715
"Mobile Safari 7"24621.96906441447926
"IE 9"23751.89948334053138
"IE 10"23431.8738903018379
"IE 8"20211.6163603499848
"Firefox 26"19681.57397187964874
"Safari 5"15061.20447238351168
"Chrome 31"12751.01972263544316
"Safari 6"12691.01492394068813
"Android 4"11430.914151350832574
"IE 7"9610.768590943263432
"Firefox 24"8030.642225314714398
"Opera 20"7980.638226402418542
"Opera 19"6880.550250331909721
"Chrome 34"5000.399891229585553
"Mobile Safari 6"4530.362301454004511
"Chrome Mobile 33"4490.359102324167826
"Firefox 25"4310.344706239902746
"Android 2"4030.322312331045955
"Chrome 30"3530.2823232080874
"Firefox 3"3510.280723643169058
"Firefox 17"3490.279124078250716
"Firefox 22"3250.259929299230609
"Chrome Mobile 32"3180.254330822016412
"Firefox 16"3160.252731257098069
"Chrome 29"3120.249532127261385
"Chrome 27"3020.241534302669674
"Firefox 20"2720.217540828894541
"Yandex Browser 13"2720.217540828894541
"Firefox 29"2700.215941263976198
"SeaMonkey 2"2670.213541916598685
"Chromium 32"2540.203144744629461
"Firefox 23"2540.203144744629461
"Chrome 35"2490.199145832333605
"Iceweasel 24"2410.192747572660236
"Chrome 21"2380.190348225282723
"Mobile Safari 5"2220.177551705935985
"Firefox 30"2070.165554969048419
"Chrome Mobile iOS 33"1900.15195866724251
"Chrome 28"1890.151158884783339
"Firefox 12"1890.151158884783339
"Chrome 26"1860.148759537405826
"Yandex Browser 14"1750.139961930354943
"Pale Moon (Firefox Variant) 24"1450.11596845657981
"Firefox 21"1440.115168674120639
"IE Mobile 10"1430.114368891661468
"Firefox 10"1420.113569109202297
"Safari 4"1290.103171937233073
"Chrome Mobile 28"1120.0895756354271638
"Firefox 14"1110.0887758529679927
"Chrome 24"1090.0871762880496505
"Firefox 19"1090.0871762880496505
"Maxthon 4"1090.0871762880496505
"Opera 11"1090.0871762880496505
"Firefox 18"1080.0863765055904794
"Chrome Mobile 18"1050.0839771582129661
"Firefox 15"960.0767791160804261
"Amazon Silk 3"800.0639825967336884
"Firefox 11"790.0631828142745173
"Mail.ru Chromium Browser 28"790.0631828142745173
"Chromium 31"770.0615832493561751
"Chrome 23"750.0599836844378329
"Chrome 25"750.0599836844378329
"Chrome 22"720.0575843370603196
"Sogou Explorer 1"670.0535854247644641
"Sleipnir 4"650.0519858598461218
"Chrome 11"630.0503862949277796
"Chrome 18"610.0487867300094374
"Firefox 9"610.0487867300094374
"Iceweasel 17"600.0479869475502663
"Opera 18"570.045587600172753
"Chromium 33"550.0439880352544108
"Iceweasel 27"530.0423884703360686
"Firefox 31"520.0415886878768975
"Chrome Mobile 31"500.0399891229585553
"Firefox Mobile 27"500.0399891229585553
"Firefox 13"470.037589775581042
"Firefox 5"470.037589775581042
"Iceweasel 3"430.0343906457443575
"BlackBerry WebKit 7"390.0311915159076731
"Camino 2"370.0295919509893309
"Firefox 8"370.0295919509893309
"Chromium 25"360.0287921685301598
"Opera Mobile 12"360.0287921685301598
"Chrome Mobile 30"350.0279923860709887
"Chrome Mobile iOS 32"340.0271926036118176
"Avant 1"310.0247932562343043
"Chrome 6"310.0247932562343043
"Opera 16"310.0247932562343043
"Chromium 30"290.0231936913159621
"UC Browser 9"290.0231936913159621
"Iceweasel 10"280.022393908856791
"Iron 31"270.0215941263976198
"Chrome Frame 32"260.0207943439384487
"Chrome Mobile iOS 31"230.0183949965609354
"Firefox 6"230.0183949965609354
"Chrome 4"220.0175952141017643
"Other Other"220.0175952141017643
"Chrome 16"210.0167954316425932
"Firefox 4"210.0167954316425932
"Firefox 7"210.0167954316425932
"Chrome 20"200.0159956491834221
"Konqueror 4"190.015195866724251
"Iceweasel 20"180.0143960842650799
"Iron 32"180.0143960842650799
"BlackBerry WebKit Other"160.0127965193467377
"Iron 30"160.0127965193467377
"Mobile Safari 4"160.0127965193467377
"NetFront NX 3"160.0127965193467377
"Chrome 10"150.0119967368875666
"Chrome 5"150.0119967368875666
"Sleipnir 2"150.0119967368875666
"BlackBerry WebKit 6"130.0103971719692244
"Opera 15"130.0103971719692244
"Chrome 15"120.00959738951005327
"Chrome 19"120.00959738951005327
"Chrome 9"120.00959738951005327
"Firefox Mobile 28"120.00959738951005327
"Midori 0"120.00959738951005327
"QQ Browser Other"120.00959738951005327
"Safari Other"120.00959738951005327
"Chromium 18"110.00879760705088216
"Chromium 6"110.00879760705088216
"Iron 23"110.00879760705088216
"AOL 9"100.00799782459171105
"Chrome 13"100.00799782459171105
"Chrome 17"100.00799782459171105
"Chrome Mobile 26"100.00799782459171105
"Chromium 29"100.00799782459171105
"IE Mobile 9"100.00799782459171105
"Iron 27"100.00799782459171105
"Iron 28"100.00799782459171105
"Yandex Browser 1"100.00799782459171105
"Chrome 8"90.00719804213253995
"Chromium 28"90.00719804213253995
"Epiphany 2"90.00719804213253995
"Epiphany 3"90.00719804213253995
"Opera 10"90.00719804213253995
"Chrome 12"80.00639825967336884
"Iceweasel 26"80.00639825967336884
"Iron 24"80.00639825967336884
"Opera 17"80.00639825967336884
"Opera 21"80.00639825967336884
"Opera 9"80.00639825967336884
"Sleipnir 5"80.00639825967336884
"Amazon Silk 1"70.00559847721419774
"Chrome Mobile iOS 30"70.00559847721419774
"Firefox Mobile 23"70.00559847721419774
"Iceape 2"70.00559847721419774
"Iceweasel 25"70.00559847721419774
"Lunascape 6"70.00559847721419774
"Opera Mobile 19"70.00559847721419774
"Opera Mobile 20"70.00559847721419774
"AppleMail 537"60.00479869475502663
"Chrome Frame 31"60.00479869475502663
"Chrome Mobile 34"60.00479869475502663
"IE 6"60.00479869475502663
"IE Large Screen 9"60.00479869475502663
"Maxthon 3"60.00479869475502663
"Chrome 14"50.00399891229585553
"Chromium 13"50.00399891229585553
"Chromium 20"50.00399891229585553
"Iceweasel 29"50.00399891229585553
"Mail.ru Chromium Browser 17"50.00399891229585553
"Mail.ru Chromium Browser 27"50.00399891229585553
"Mobile Safari Other"50.00399891229585553
"OmniWeb 622"50.00399891229585553
"Pale Moon (Firefox Variant) 20"50.00399891229585553
"Comodo Dragon 21"40.00319912983668442
"Dolfin 2"40.00319912983668442
"Firefox Alpha 10"40.00319912983668442
"Firefox Alpha 15"40.00319912983668442
"Firefox Mobile 25"40.00319912983668442
"Iceweasel 28"40.00319912983668442
"Iron 29"40.00319912983668442
"Iron 8"40.00319912983668442
"RockMelt 0"40.00319912983668442
"Safari 3"40.00319912983668442
"Sleipnir 3"40.00319912983668442
"UC Browser 2"40.00319912983668442
"Android 0"30.00239934737751332
"BlackBerry WebKit 2"30.00239934737751332
"Chrome 7"30.00239934737751332
"Chrome Frame 21"30.00239934737751332
"Chrome Mobile iOS 19"30.00239934737751332
"Chrome Mobile iOS 28"30.00239934737751332
"Chromium 22"30.00239934737751332
"Conkeror 1"30.00239934737751332
"Firefox Mobile 26"30.00239934737751332
"Google Earth 7"30.00239934737751332
"Iceweasel 21"30.00239934737751332
"Iceweasel 23"30.00239934737751332
"Iron 14"30.00239934737751332
"Kindle 3"30.00239934737751332
"Opera Tablet 12"30.00239934737751332
"Android 3"20.00159956491834221
"AppleMail 531"20.00159956491834221
"AppleMail 534"20.00159956491834221
"Chromium 34"20.00159956491834221
"Googlebot 2"20.00159956491834221
"Iron 17"20.00159956491834221
"Iron 22"20.00159956491834221
"Iron 33"20.00159956491834221
"Iron 6"20.00159956491834221
"Lynx 2"20.00159956491834221
"Maxthon 0"20.00159956491834221
"Opera Mobile 16"20.00159956491834221
"Pale Moon (Firefox Variant) 15"20.00159956491834221
"Pale Moon (Firefox Variant) 3"20.00159956491834221
"Phantom Browser 2"20.00159956491834221
"UC Browser 3"20.00159956491834221
"Chrome 0"10.000799782459171105
"Chrome Frame 25"10.000799782459171105
"Chrome Frame 29"10.000799782459171105
"Chrome Mobile 27"10.000799782459171105
"Chrome Mobile 29"10.000799782459171105
"Chrome Mobile iOS 23"10.000799782459171105
"Chrome Mobile iOS 25"10.000799782459171105
"Chrome Mobile iOS 29"10.000799782459171105
"Chromium 12"10.000799782459171105
"Chromium 27"10.000799782459171105
"Chromium 35"10.000799782459171105
"Firefox Mobile 24"10.000799782459171105
"Firefox Mobile 29"10.000799782459171105
"Flock 2"10.000799782459171105
"Galeon 2"10.000799782459171105
"iCab 4"10.000799782459171105
"IceCat 3"10.000799782459171105
"Iceweasel 8"10.000799782459171105
"Iron 19"10.000799782459171105
"Iron 21"10.000799782459171105
"Iron 25"10.000799782459171105
"Iron 26"10.000799782459171105
"Jasmine 1"10.000799782459171105
"Links 0"10.000799782459171105
"Mobile Safari 3"10.000799782459171105
"NetFront NX Other"10.000799782459171105
"Nokia Browser 8"10.000799782459171105
"Opera Mobile 21"10.000799782459171105
"Rekonq 1"10.000799782459171105
"SeaMonkey 1"10.000799782459171105
"Uzbl 0"10.000799782459171105
"WebKit Nightly 535"10.000799782459171105
"webOS Browser 3"10.000799782459171105

Version: wmf-deployment
Severity: normal
See Also:
T54295: Add sanitized User-Agent to default fields logged by EventLogging
T60368: Queries on page views for user agent version range
T30235: XSS: IE6 looks for the file extension in the query string

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• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 22 2014, 2:37 AM
• bzimport added a project: Wikimedia-Site-requests.
• bzimport set Reference to bz56575.
• bzimport added a subscriber: Unknown Object (MLST).
• GWicke created this task.Nov 4 2013, 6:47 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Nov 4 2013, 7:40 PM

Change 93526 had a related patch set uploaded by Ori.livneh:
Log User-Agent strings on successful authentication requests

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93526

gerritbot added a comment.Apr 3 2014, 9:43 PM

Change 93526 abandoned by Ori.livneh:
Log User-Agent strings on successful authentication requests

Reason:
Logged by default.

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/93526

• Mattflaschen-WMF added a comment.Apr 9 2014, 4:24 AM

Note, Windows XP hit End of Life today, meaning there are no more security updates (except for companies that can afford Custom Support contracts). This is the last supported desktop OS that could run IE6.

• GWicke added a comment.Apr 18 2014, 2:23 PM

Using event logging data, Oliver found that IE 6 has only 0.00479% of logged-in page views these days. That means that disabling logins for IE 6 could be a good option to avoid spending more time on IE 6 specific XSS issues.

Other relevant browsers:
IE 6 0.00479%
IE 7 0.768%
IE 8 1.616%
IE 9 1.899%

Full data:
"user_agents.vec" "Freq" "Percentages"
"Firefox 27" 33628 26.8950845370059
"Chrome 33" 32820 26.2488603099957
"Chrome 32" 9410 7.5259529408001
"IE 11" 7993 6.39266119615465
"Firefox 28" 3254 2.60249212214278
"Opera 12" 2740 2.19140393812883
"Safari 7" 2549 2.03864548842715
"Mobile Safari 7" 2462 1.96906441447926
"IE 9" 2375 1.89948334053138
"IE 10" 2343 1.8738903018379
"IE 8" 2021 1.6163603499848
"Firefox 26" 1968 1.57397187964874
"Safari 5" 1506 1.20447238351168
"Chrome 31" 1275 1.01972263544316
"Safari 6" 1269 1.01492394068813
"Android 4" 1143 0.914151350832574
"IE 7" 961 0.768590943263432
"Firefox 24" 803 0.642225314714398
"Opera 20" 798 0.638226402418542
"Opera 19" 688 0.550250331909721
"Chrome 34" 500 0.399891229585553
"Mobile Safari 6" 453 0.362301454004511
"Chrome Mobile 33" 449 0.359102324167826
"Firefox 25" 431 0.344706239902746
"Android 2" 403 0.322312331045955
"Chrome 30" 353 0.2823232080874
"Firefox 3" 351 0.280723643169058
"Firefox 17" 349 0.279124078250716
"Firefox 22" 325 0.259929299230609
"Chrome Mobile 32" 318 0.254330822016412
"Firefox 16" 316 0.252731257098069
"Chrome 29" 312 0.249532127261385
"Chrome 27" 302 0.241534302669674
"Firefox 20" 272 0.217540828894541
"Yandex Browser 13" 272 0.217540828894541
"Firefox 29" 270 0.215941263976198
"SeaMonkey 2" 267 0.213541916598685
"Chromium 32" 254 0.203144744629461
"Firefox 23" 254 0.203144744629461
"Chrome 35" 249 0.199145832333605
"Iceweasel 24" 241 0.192747572660236
"Chrome 21" 238 0.190348225282723
"Mobile Safari 5" 222 0.177551705935985
"Firefox 30" 207 0.165554969048419
"Chrome Mobile iOS 33" 190 0.15195866724251
"Chrome 28" 189 0.151158884783339
"Firefox 12" 189 0.151158884783339
"Chrome 26" 186 0.148759537405826
"Yandex Browser 14" 175 0.139961930354943
"Pale Moon (Firefox Variant) 24" 145 0.11596845657981
"Firefox 21" 144 0.115168674120639
"IE Mobile 10" 143 0.114368891661468
"Firefox 10" 142 0.113569109202297
"Safari 4" 129 0.103171937233073
"Chrome Mobile 28" 112 0.0895756354271638
"Firefox 14" 111 0.0887758529679927
"Chrome 24" 109 0.0871762880496505
"Firefox 19" 109 0.0871762880496505
"Maxthon 4" 109 0.0871762880496505
"Opera 11" 109 0.0871762880496505
"Firefox 18" 108 0.0863765055904794
"Chrome Mobile 18" 105 0.0839771582129661
"Firefox 15" 96 0.0767791160804261
"Amazon Silk 3" 80 0.0639825967336884
"Firefox 11" 79 0.0631828142745173
"Mail.ru Chromium Browser 28" 79 0.0631828142745173
"Chromium 31" 77 0.0615832493561751
"Chrome 23" 75 0.0599836844378329
"Chrome 25" 75 0.0599836844378329
"Chrome 22" 72 0.0575843370603196
"Sogou Explorer 1" 67 0.0535854247644641
"Sleipnir 4" 65 0.0519858598461218
"Chrome 11" 63 0.0503862949277796
"Chrome 18" 61 0.0487867300094374
"Firefox 9" 61 0.0487867300094374
"Iceweasel 17" 60 0.0479869475502663
"Opera 18" 57 0.045587600172753
"Chromium 33" 55 0.0439880352544108
"Iceweasel 27" 53 0.0423884703360686
"Firefox 31" 52 0.0415886878768975
"Chrome Mobile 31" 50 0.0399891229585553
"Firefox Mobile 27" 50 0.0399891229585553
"Firefox 13" 47 0.037589775581042
"Firefox 5" 47 0.037589775581042
"Iceweasel 3" 43 0.0343906457443575
"BlackBerry WebKit 7" 39 0.0311915159076731
"Camino 2" 37 0.0295919509893309
"Firefox 8" 37 0.0295919509893309
"Chromium 25" 36 0.0287921685301598
"Opera Mobile 12" 36 0.0287921685301598
"Chrome Mobile 30" 35 0.0279923860709887
"Chrome Mobile iOS 32" 34 0.0271926036118176
"Avant 1" 31 0.0247932562343043
"Chrome 6" 31 0.0247932562343043
"Opera 16" 31 0.0247932562343043
"Chromium 30" 29 0.0231936913159621
"UC Browser 9" 29 0.0231936913159621
"Iceweasel 10" 28 0.022393908856791
"Iron 31" 27 0.0215941263976198
"Chrome Frame 32" 26 0.0207943439384487
"Chrome Mobile iOS 31" 23 0.0183949965609354
"Firefox 6" 23 0.0183949965609354
"Chrome 4" 22 0.0175952141017643
"Other Other" 22 0.0175952141017643
"Chrome 16" 21 0.0167954316425932
"Firefox 4" 21 0.0167954316425932
"Firefox 7" 21 0.0167954316425932
"Chrome 20" 20 0.0159956491834221
"Konqueror 4" 19 0.015195866724251
"Iceweasel 20" 18 0.0143960842650799
"Iron 32" 18 0.0143960842650799
"BlackBerry WebKit Other" 16 0.0127965193467377
"Iron 30" 16 0.0127965193467377
"Mobile Safari 4" 16 0.0127965193467377
"NetFront NX 3" 16 0.0127965193467377
"Chrome 10" 15 0.0119967368875666
"Chrome 5" 15 0.0119967368875666
"Sleipnir 2" 15 0.0119967368875666
"BlackBerry WebKit 6" 13 0.0103971719692244
"Opera 15" 13 0.0103971719692244
"Chrome 15" 12 0.00959738951005327
"Chrome 19" 12 0.00959738951005327
"Chrome 9" 12 0.00959738951005327
"Firefox Mobile 28" 12 0.00959738951005327
"Midori 0" 12 0.00959738951005327
"QQ Browser Other" 12 0.00959738951005327
"Safari Other" 12 0.00959738951005327
"Chromium 18" 11 0.00879760705088216
"Chromium 6" 11 0.00879760705088216
"Iron 23" 11 0.00879760705088216
"AOL 9" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Chrome 13" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Chrome 17" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Chrome Mobile 26" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Chromium 29" 10 0.00799782459171105
"IE Mobile 9" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Iron 27" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Iron 28" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Yandex Browser 1" 10 0.00799782459171105
"Chrome 8" 9 0.00719804213253995
"Chromium 28" 9 0.00719804213253995
"Epiphany 2" 9 0.00719804213253995
"Epiphany 3" 9 0.00719804213253995
"Opera 10" 9 0.00719804213253995
"Chrome 12" 8 0.00639825967336884
"Iceweasel 26" 8 0.00639825967336884
"Iron 24" 8 0.00639825967336884
"Opera 17" 8 0.00639825967336884
"Opera 21" 8 0.00639825967336884
"Opera 9" 8 0.00639825967336884
"Sleipnir 5" 8 0.00639825967336884
"Amazon Silk 1" 7 0.00559847721419774
"Chrome Mobile iOS 30" 7 0.00559847721419774
"Firefox Mobile 23" 7 0.00559847721419774
"Iceape 2" 7 0.00559847721419774
"Iceweasel 25" 7 0.00559847721419774
"Lunascape 6" 7 0.00559847721419774
"Opera Mobile 19" 7 0.00559847721419774
"Opera Mobile 20" 7 0.00559847721419774
"AppleMail 537" 6 0.00479869475502663
"Chrome Frame 31" 6 0.00479869475502663
"Chrome Mobile 34" 6 0.00479869475502663
"IE 6" 6 0.00479869475502663
"IE Large Screen 9" 6 0.00479869475502663
"Maxthon 3" 6 0.00479869475502663
"Chrome 14" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Chromium 13" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Chromium 20" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Iceweasel 29" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Mail.ru Chromium Browser 17" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Mail.ru Chromium Browser 27" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Mobile Safari Other" 5 0.00399891229585553
"OmniWeb 622" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Pale Moon (Firefox Variant) 20" 5 0.00399891229585553
"Comodo Dragon 21" 4 0.00319912983668442
"Dolfin 2" 4 0.00319912983668442
"Firefox Alpha 10" 4 0.00319912983668442
"Firefox Alpha 15" 4 0.00319912983668442
"Firefox Mobile 25" 4 0.00319912983668442
"Iceweasel 28" 4 0.00319912983668442
"Iron 29" 4 0.00319912983668442
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Should this be merged with T75794: Capture Browser & Platform used to access sites ?

Jdforrester-WMF added a comment.Dec 1 2014, 9:28 PM
In T58575#799208, @Jaredzimmerman-WMF wrote:

Should this be merged with T75794: Capture Browser & Platform used to access sites ?

Yeah, that looks like a duplicate.

Jdforrester-WMF renamed this task from Browser stats for logged-in vs. anon users for security support decisions to Browser stats for logged-in vs. anon users for security and product support decisions.Dec 1 2014, 9:29 PM
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@Nuria recently performed a rough analysis of our traffic logs to gauge the percentage of requests from browsers without JS support. The results can be found at

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Reports/ClientsWithoutJavascript

The surprising result is that mobile growth seems to have *increased* the percentage of no-JS clients to about 2.5%. While this might be a temporary effect that will diminish with cheap & ubiquitous Android phones, it is something to keep in mind when designing features that are relevant to feature phone users.

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• GWicke added a comment.Dec 28 2015, 5:54 PM

@ori brought up this more detailed JS support study by gov.uk. They found that the majority of no-JS experiences were actually browsers with JS support not fetching JS resources for a variety of reasons. Their overall no-JS number (1.1%) was lower than ours (2.5%).

• Nuria added a comment.Dec 28 2015, 6:27 PM

Nice, very interesting.

Please have in mind that their methodology might count as "javscript enabled" browsers with questionable Javascript support like opera mini. All together in our mobile sites we have ~2..5% users of Opera Mini (only mobile, not overall). So, feature wise might be better to count those in the "non javascript" bucket. Overall usage of Opera Mini is ~1%.

Also, our platform doesn't serve javascript to IE6 (0.67%) and IE7 ( ~1.4%) so our numbers will differ slightly.

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• Nuria added a comment.Jan 23 2017, 5:03 PM

General Browser stats available at http://analytics.wikimedia.org

Resolving.

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@Nuria, as far as I can tell https://analytics.wikimedia.org/ only provides overall aggregates. While already very useful, there does not seem to be a way to differentiate between logged-in vs. anonymous users.

This distinction matters, as a) browser support is likely to differ between anonymous & authenticated users, and b) many complex and security-critical features are specifically targeted at editors / authenticated users.

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• Nuria added a comment.EditedFeb 1 2017, 7:54 PM

Correcting last post.

From data on hadoop we cannot differentiate between logged in and not logged in users. We can differentiate between 'reading' data and 'edit' data (well, not super well but more or less checking for urls that contain "action=edit"). Also x-analytics includes logegdin bit (only for pageview data)

I "suspect" that the browser distribution for desktop is going to be very similar for those two groups though.

We can run some fast number on that but short answer to this ticket is that we do not propagate whether a user is logged in on our hadoop stack.

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• Nuria added a comment.Sep 3 2019, 7:23 AM

There is tons of data at this time to be able to evaluate browser support in eventlogging and cu_changes (on hadoop). Closing.

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