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According to bug 49087, thanks are intended to be private and the only public info about them is "XXX thanked XXX" plus a timestamp, which is at Special:Log/thanks.

Going to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserProfile/MaxSem, I see "Last thanked by Angelo bullet for an edit to Main Page."

The "Main Page" part is not public information.


Version: unspecified
Severity: normal
See Also:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49087

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Legoktm created this task.Nov 8 2013, 11:09 PM

bingle-admin wrote:

Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Mingle card https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1382

swalling wrote:

(In reply to comment #0)

According to bug 49087, thanks are intended to be private and the only public
info about them is "XXX thanked XXX" plus a timestamp, which is at
Special:Log/thanks.

Going to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserProfile/MaxSem, I see
"Last thanked by Angelo bullet for an edit to Main Page."

The "Main Page" part is not public information.

I think Kenan from the mobile team is going to comment more, but just FYI we discussed this and agreed we should do something, though it's not hugely urgent because mobile structured profiles are linked to in Beta only, AFAIK.

The reason the mobile team experimented with showing Thanks is A) they didn't know it was supposed to be private B) they want a way to show positive connections between editors.

We discussed a few compromises, with two distinct possibilities:

  1. we remove thanks entirely for now
  2. we remove the article edited, saying only "Last thanked by Foo", which doesn't expose the article and edit the user was thanked for.

We also discussed it was a shame to hide this information. Exposing the title really highlights how people are collaborating and brings a much needed (IMO) human element to that process rather than hiding away these collaborations between people deeply hidden away in the existing MediaWiki interfaces. personally I dont think any of Wikipedia or other projects should have private elements it seems anti the principles. people should just not log in if they want to thank in private or just not thank full stop. just my thoughts here but I would love to be involved in a larger review of this decision...

swalling wrote:

(In reply to comment #3)

We also discussed it was a shame to hide this information. Exposing the title
really highlights how people are collaborating and brings a much needed (IMO)
human element to that process rather than hiding away these collaborations
between people deeply hidden away in the existing MediaWiki interfaces.
personally I dont think any of Wikipedia or other projects should have
private
elements it seems anti the principles. people should just not log in if they
want to thank in private or just not thank full stop. just my thoughts here
but
I would love to be involved in a larger review of this decision...

I should point out that it's not strictly private, in the sense that you can look up who thanked me, via something like https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=thanks&user=Steven+Walling&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=

However, we have made a design decision not to make thanks publicly prominent, in order to make people feel comfortable thanking each other liberally. There's not 100% agreement about the way thanks works, internally at the WMF or within the community, so Jon's not alone in his feelings by any means. But it was a conscious choice made by Fabrice, Kaldari, Vibha, and all those involved with designing thanks. I support it fervently because they made this choice in order to accomplish a design goal: getting people to thank each other *a lot* and not hesitate to do so.

They were successful with that, and we shouldn't second guess them in hindsight based on principles or ideology. This is similar to the decision to disallow anonymous editing on mobile for now: you can argue this violates our ideals and is outside the norm, but we did it in a special circumstance in order to accomplish a goal (mobile editing) that is now doing very positive things for the encyclopedia and for the Wikipedia community.

kwang wrote:

Thanks for bringing this up Kunal. It is something that we thought about very briefly when we added this feature to the User Profiles. As Steven has mentioned thanks are not explicitly private, but they are implicitly between two users. Now this was a decision that was made consciously, but the purpose of thanks is to increase collaboration and engagement between users, if it serves that purpose to make thanks more public then we may evolve the framing of that feature. However, it does make sense to think about it as we go in so that is something that we will do over the coming couple weeks.

As Steven mentioned there are some options we have and this feature is only in beta now so we have room to make changes and will keep you in the loop on these conversations.

There's a lot of speculation on this. Can we objectively state the issues around Expressing Thanks in a profile and record them on the discussion page for Global Profiles?

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_Profiles

Vibha - I would suggest this discussion happens on bug 49087

Will be removed as part of iteration N

Change 105995 had a related patch set uploaded by Jdlrobson:
Remove page from last thanked

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105995

Change 105995 merged by jenkins-bot:
Remove page from last thanked

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/105995