Echo: talkpage messages without a 4tilde signature, do not generate correct section links or summary
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	Nov 17 2013, 8:24 PM

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2 Edwardsbot messages, the second didn't use a 4tilde signature

Any "new talkpage message" currently requires a 4tilde sig, otherwise the section-link and auto-excerpt-edit-summary will not appear in any Notifications (flyout/email).

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The screenshot is referring to the two messages visible here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Quiddity&oldid=580865248#The_Signpost:_06_November_2013

The November 8 message ("Wikidata weekly summary #83") ends with "Global message delivery 21:50, 8 November 2013 (UTC)" which is not a 4tilde signature. The Notifications (flyout/specialpage/email) all fail to link to the specific section in the talkpage, and all fail to provide an excerpt/auto-summary.

The November 9 message ("The Signpost: 06 November 2013") appears to be signed with a 4tilde sig, and it correctly gives section-links and edit-summary.

An unsigned, "new section", test-message on your userpage (from an account not-your-own) will reproduce this bug.

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Severity: normal

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Screenshot_from_2013-11-17_12:06:49.png (320×827 px, 49 KB)

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Reference: bz57152

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Mentioned In: T64661: Echo: Emailed Notifications for new usertalkpage messages should include more or all of the message

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Quiddity created this task.Nov 17 2013, 8:24 PM

Somewhat relatedly, and just to complicate things (! :D ), see comments #9, #16, and #20, at bug 53132.

The WMF core features team tracks this bug on Mingle card https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/flow/cards/494, but people from the community are welcome to contribute here and in Gerrit.

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Qgil mentioned this in T64661: Echo: Emailed Notifications for new usertalkpage messages should include more or all of the message.Dec 12 2014, 11:24 PM

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• Elitre subscribed.Mar 20 2017, 7:26 PM

Adding MassMessage, because it is the usual culprit these days.
I.e. All messages sent via MassMessage, will trigger an email-notification and web-notification without any excerpt.
IIUC, This is because MassMessage doesn't usually use a 4-tilde signature, and therefore Echo interprets it as just an edit to existing content on a page.

e.g.

https://twitter.com/owenblacker/status/843877613336743937

(Possibly this warrants a subtask, but I'm hoping the solution for one might solve it for everything.)

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matmarex merged a task: T101387: Echo cannot figure out which section of a talk page was edited unless the comment is signed.Apr 30 2021, 4:40 PM

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