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Author: robin.owain

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On cy (Welsh language) Wikipedia, Wikisource, Wiktionary etc: please use Welsh language alphabet.

There is no need for community discussion on this, but discussion has happened, with no voices against: https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicipedia:Y_Caffi#Y_Wyddor_Gymraeg_ar_MediaWiki

Each of the following are single sounds, and therefore should be treated as single letters, in this order:

a b c ch d dd e f ff g ng h i j l ll m n o p ph r rh s t th u w y


Version: wmf-deployment
Severity: enhancement

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bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Normal.Nov 22 2014, 2:27 AM
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bzimport created this task.Jan 7 2014, 10:39 PM

please use Welsh language alphabet.

Hi, could you please give examples for "use"?

Reedy added a comment.Jan 7 2014, 10:49 PM

I think this might be a category collation related request

robin.owain wrote:

https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categori:Cymunedau_Gwynedd

shows that the categories and articles follow the English alphabet rather than the Welsh language alphabet.

Reedy added a comment.Jan 7 2014, 11:27 PM

(In reply to comment #3)

https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categori:Cymunedau_Gwynedd
shows that the categories and articles follow the English alphabet rather
than
the Welsh language alphabet.

Then yes, this is Category collation issue.

A quick glance at core shows Welsh support. Not sure if we need anything else from libicu.

'cy' => array( "Ch", "Dd", "Ff", "Ng", "Ll", "Ph", "Rh", "Th" ),

So... It should just be a case running the shell script for each of the wikis

robin.owain wrote:

Do I need to do this?

Change 106163 had a related patch set uploaded by Reedy:
Use uca-cy collation on Welsh projects

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106163

Change 106163 merged by jenkins-bot:
Use uca-cy collation on Welsh projects

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106163

robin.owain wrote:

Many thanks. Great: it works.

One last question: can I create exeptions: eg 'Chicago' should come under 'c' and not 'ch'?

(In reply to comment #8)

One last question: can I create exeptions: eg 'Chicago' should come under 'c'
and not 'ch'?

I think you can use a special defaultsort syntax: {{DEFAULTSORT|C‌hicago}}. ‌ is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-width_non-joiner .

(I naturally meant {{DEFAULTSORT:C‌hicago}}, that was a typo.)

robin.owain wrote:

Taken for granted! Many thanks. Everything ok. Robin