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Update of the ch-portal for Switzerland
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Author: Wiki.Melancholie

The Swiss ch-portal at
needs to be updated urgently. We (als.wikipedia) have been
trying to find someone who can do so for months already! You
can copy the new html file from there easily: http://als.

'Attention': Do not copy and paste the tags <pre> and </pre>
at the top and the bottom ;-)

If you want to check the voting about that: http://de.

Hopefully and with best regards, als:user:Melancholie

Version: unspecified
Severity: normal



Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 21 2014, 9:00 PM
bzimport set Reference to bz4270.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Do not use this version!

Attachment that should be used instead of the given link (due to a cache
problem of the link)

attachment ch-portal.txt ignored as obsolete

File are on zwinger:/home/wikipedia/htdocs/wikimedia/ch-portal/

Maybe they should be made available through meta: just like ?

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Yes, this could be a good idea. What is important for me
is, that the ch-portal (and the other portals) can be
changed and updated by new languages for example within
at least some days (if a sysop should be necessary). But
we of the alemannic Wikipedia are trying and waiting for
a update for many months now! Otherwise there should be
a point of reference, where someone can ask for those
changes. Currently nobody seems to feel responsible for
doing so.

With best regards, als:user:Melancholie

robchur wrote:

And asking in the Wikimedia IRC channel or on the mailing list hasn't worked?

clemens.kienzle wrote:

(In reply to comment #4)

And asking in the Wikimedia IRC channel or on the mailing list hasn't worked?

When we asked on the mailing list, the person we thought responsible replied that
it's nice to ask him but that he isn't responsible; we should write to the German
Wikimedia. When you do that, they say that they have forwarded the request,
nothing happens, you write again, and get an angry response saying that that's all
they can do.

Where do these portals come from? :P

Under what circumstances would anyone come across it? Where is it shown?

This file appears to contain a web bug (offsite tracker),
which endangers the privacy of visitors to this page.
Will not add.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

(In reply to comment #7)

Will not add.

Quite the same tracker is used in the nl-
portal, so why not in the ch-portal? Where
is the problem of using an external web

Questions: If you type in ""
you are redirected to that portal!

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

BTW: also if you type in ""

robchur wrote:

I quote Avar, "looks like these trackers need to be killed." If on Wikimedia
servers, then I agree wholeheartedly; and if not, then the affiliation needs to
disappear. We don't LIKE those sorts of things.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

"Privacy of visitors": But then you must not
use and http://www2.knams., too! Where is the difference?
Why not use an external one (there is stored
the same data, only)?

avarab wrote:

(In reply to comment #8)

(In reply to comment #7)

Will not add.

Quite the same tracker is used in the nl-
portal, so why not in the ch-portal? Where
is the problem of using an external web

The tracker was also used in the be portal and has now been removed from be and
nl. The problem with is is loading offsite Javascript.

The unauthorized third-party trackers have been removed from the nl and be portals; thanks for
letting us know about them.

A third-party tracker reveals the network address, browser information, time, and potentially
other sensitive information to a third party who we don't know and don't have any agreement with
about the handling of personally-identifiable information. Further, this tracks passive page
views, not active edits by consenting contributors.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Comment on attachment 1186
Do not use this version!

false one

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

The new ch-portal (bug free ;-)

this one is ok!

attachment ch-portal_new.txt ignored as obsolete

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Old attachment: I didn't consider the
problems of an external web counter, sorry
for this! I hope I did not annoy you with
this, it was just well-meant. --- Best
regards, Melancholie

Thanks. It still seems to be broken though; it's missing the background and logo,
and the GFDL logo link seems to go to a 404 page.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

No, when uploaded to the server (where the
current file is) it will work (see file
locations of the images)! --- Best
regards, Melancholie

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Oops, yes the GNU-fdl does not work since
today! I will correct this too, of course.
Sorry again, but it did work yesterday! ---
Best regards, Melancholie

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

With Fixed image (using Commons)

attachment ch-portal_3.txt ignored as obsolete

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

New one with fixed css (bypassing cache effect)

attachment ch-portal-4.txt ignored as obsolete

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Oh my god, I cannot say 'sorry' enough
times. This last problem was caused by the
cache effect of the css file. So it would
have worked in some hours; unacceptable,
yes. But now it works (due to a direct link
to the files, not just 'headbg.png') ---
Best regards, your time-waster Melancholie ;

Ok, that one seems to work. :)

Applied file to server.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Bugfix (&ctype); minor tweaks

attachment ch-portal_(2006-01-22).txt ignored as obsolete

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

  1. Bugfix for Gecko; see above
  2. BTW: Why does redirect to (with double "//"
at the end)? It should redirect to http://www.wikimedia.
org/ch-portal/ instead, I think (more neatly).

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Comment on attachment 1319
Bugfix (&ctype); minor tweaks

<HTML><BODY TEXT="#000000"><PRE><?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-W3CDTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "">

<html xmlns="" xml:lang="de" lang="de" dir="ltr">

<!-- Siehe: -->

<!-- Version: Januar 2006 -->


<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />

<meta name="keywords" lang="de" content="Wikipedia, Schweiz, Enzyklop&auml;die, frei, Lexikon, Wissen" />

<meta name="keywords" lang="fr" content="Wikipedia, Suisse, encyclop&eacute;die, libre" />

<meta name="keywords" lang="it" content="Wikipedia, Svizzera, enciclopedia, libera" />

<meta name="keywords" lang="rm" content="Wikipedia, Svizra, encyclopedia" />

<meta name="keywords" lang="en" content="Wikipedia, Switzerland, encyclopedia, free, knowledge" />

<meta name="description" lang="de" content="Das Schweizer Portal von Wikipedia, der freien Enzyklop&auml;die" />

<meta name="description" lang="fr" content="Wikip&eacute;dia, l'encyclop&eacute;die libre" />

<meta name="description" lang="it" content="Wikipedia, l'enciclopedia libera" />

<meta name="description" lang="en" content="Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" />

<meta name="robots" content="index,follow" />

<title> (Schweiz, Suisse, Svizzera, Svizra)</title>

<link rel="shortcut icon" href="" />

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen,projection" href="" />

<script type="text/javascript" src=""></script>


<body id="wikipedia-ch">


<div lang="de" class="left column red-bg field" onclick="golang(this)">

<h1 class="hello">Willkommen!</h1>

<p class="intro">

<a href="" class="aux"><b>Wikipedia</b> ist eine mehrsprachige <b>Enzyklop&auml;die</b>, deren Inhalte <b>frei</b> nutzbar sind und es f&uuml;r immer bleiben werden. Alle k&ouml;nnen hier ihr Wissen einbringen!</a>


<a class="main" href="">Wikipedia auf Deutsch</a></p>


<div lang="fr" class="right column yellow-bg field" onclick="golang(this)">

<h1 class="hello">Bienvenue!</h1>

<p class="intro">

<a href="" class="aux"><b>Wikip&eacute;dia</b> est un projet d'<b>encyclop&eacute;die</b> gratuite, &eacute;crite <b>coop&eacute;rativement</b> et dont le contenu est librement r&eacute;utilisable. Vous pouvez y participer tout de suite!</a>


<a class="main" href="">Wikip&eacute;dia en fran&ccedil;ais</a></p>


<a id="logo" href=""></a>

<div lang="it" class="left column green-bg field" onclick="golang(this)">

<h1 class="hello">Benvenuto!</h1>

<p class="intro">

<a href="" class="aux"><b>Wikipedia</b> &egrave; un progetto di <b>enciclopedia libera</b>, scritta collaborativamente, il cui contenuto &egrave; liberamente riutilizzabile. Anche tu puoi parteciparvi!</a>


<a class="main" href="">Wikipedia in italiano</a></p>


<div lang="als" class="right column purple-bg field" onclick="golang(this)">

<h1 class="hello">Willkomme!</h1>

<p><a href="" class="aux"><small>Wikipedia isch e freyi Enziklop&auml;dy!</small></a></p>

<p><a class="main" href=""><small>Wikipedia uf Alemannisch (Schwyzerd&uuml;tsch)</small></a></p>

<h1 class="hello">Bainvegni!</h1>

<p><a href="" class="aux"><small>Wikipedia &egrave; ina encyclopedia libra!</small></a></p>

<p><a class="main" href=""><small>Wikipedia en rumantsch</small></a></p>


<br />

<div id="search">

<form id="fsearch" action="" method="get" accept-charset="utf-8">

<script type="text/javascript"><!--

makefield( 'Wort &ndash; mot &ndash; parola &ndash; word');

makebutton( 'de',  'red-bg',    'Nachschlagen');

makebutton( 'fr',  'yellow-bg', 'Consulter');

makebutton( 'it', 'green-bg',  'Cerca');

makebutton( 'en',  'purple-bg', 'Search');





<div id="others">


<span lang="de" class="otherstitle">Wikipedia <a href="">in anderen Sprachen</a></span>

<span lang="fr" class="otherstitle">Wikip&eacute;dia dans d'autres langues</span>

<span lang="it" class="otherstitle">Wikipedia in altre lingue</span>


<p><!-- andere Sprachen -->

<span class="other"><a href="">Dansk</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">Espa&ntilde;ol</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">Esperanto</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">Nederlands</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">Polaco</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">Portugu&eacute;s</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">Svenska</a><br /></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">&#26085;&#26412;&#35486; (Japanisch)</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">&#20013;&#25991; (Chinesisch)</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">&Epsilon;&lambda;&lambda;&eta;&nu;&iota;&kappa;&#940; (Griechisch)</a></span>

<span class="other"><a href="">&#1506;&#1489;&#1512;&#1497;&#1514; (Hebr&auml;isch)</a></span>



<div id="footer">

<div class="left banner"><a href=""><img src="" alt="GNU-FDL"/></a></div>

<div class="right banner"><a href=""><img src="" alt="Wikimedia Foundation"/></a></div>





Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Same bugfix; further tweaks (ch->de)

attachment ch-portal_(2006-01-23).txt ignored as obsolete

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Changing severity to "major", because the current html
on the server looks 'pretty' ugly when using Firefox (FF
doesn't fetch css/js)!

Uploaded updates from attachment 1320. Confirmed problem with Firefox (mime types were wrong)

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Added a link to Wikimedia-CH; minor improvements

attachment ch-portal_(2006-01-29).txt ignored as obsolete

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

  1. Please upload new html file; see #31
  2. BTW: Why does redirect to (with double "//"
at the end)? It should redirect to http://www.wikimedia.
org/ch-portal/ instead, I think (more neatly)

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

W3C validated version of #1330

Please have a look on comment #32, too.


Updated file. I'm not sure what's up with the redirect oddity; it might or might not be
an artifact of the redirect being indirected; I've adjusted it to look more like the redirect, which doesn't suffer from this, but I'm not 100% sure it works.
(May be cache issues too.)

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Some changed the swiss portal back to a totally obsolete
version, without writing why! He/she didn't contact the
current central point of reference:
This address is given by a html comment at the top.

As long as the person who did this doesn't contact
anybody, it would be nice if someone could change the
portal back to the attachment with the ID 1338.

Can you see who that was? If yes, could you ask him why
he/she did this?

Please don't make wild claims about evil people.
We're currently limping along on an old copy of various site
files while recovering servers.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Oh, sorry! But I could not know that.

To understand my first assumption, you have to know,
that it took us many many weeks until the als.Wikipedia
got accepted for beeing shown in this portal and months
until it finally was implemented.

I feel sorry, but I really didn't know that the
recovering of servers could be the reason.

With best regards, [[als:Melancholie]]

robchur wrote:

...we're all vicious vindictive bastards who sit around waiting to mark bugs
WONTFIX and reverting people's changes whenever we can.

Wiki.Melancholie wrote:

Ah, that explains a lot ;-)

By way of conversation: The "//" disfigurement was still
there during the last weeks; see comment #32