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VisualEditor: Please add an easy way to get from a citation template to the basic (manual) reference dialog
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Description

Goal:

  • Add something to an existing citation that the template shouldn't include, like a {{verify credibility}} tag.
  • Assign a citation to a references group.

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Open a page containing a {{cite book}} template.
  2. Click on the citation to edit it.
  3. Think, "Um, I don't actually want this ''in'' the template; I want this ''after'' the template."
  4. Give up.

This can be done, if you happen to know that the thing to do is to select the ref, ignore the tag that pops up, go to the Cite menu, and choose Basic (after Citoid replaced the old Cite menu, this is no longer possible). But the ability to edit these refs would be more discoverable if the Cite Book dialog had a button at the bottom for "Use reference editor".

Event Timeline

bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.Nov 22 2014, 3:45 AM
bzimport set Reference to bz69498.
Jdforrester-WMF moved this task from To Triage to Freezer on the VisualEditor board.
Ainali renamed this task from VsualEditor: Please add an easy way to get from a citation template to the basic (manual) reference dialog to VisualEditor: Please add an easy way to get from a citation template to the basic (manual) reference dialog.Feb 10 2016, 8:25 PM
Ainali set Security to None.

Change 483337 had a related patch set uploaded (by Bartosz Dziewoński; owner: Bartosz Dziewoński):
[mediawiki/extensions/Citoid@master] Allow any reference to be replaced using Citoid

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/483337

matmarex subscribed.

It is not exactly easy, but with that patch, it is at least possible again – you can open the "basic" reference dialog for citations using Edit → Replace reference → Manual → Basic form. See screenshots in T208981#4868393.

Change 483337 had a related patch set uploaded (by Esanders; owner: Bartosz Dziewoński):
[mediawiki/extensions/Citoid@master] Allow any reference to be replaced using Citoid

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/483337

Change 483337 merged by jenkins-bot:
[mediawiki/extensions/Citoid@master] Allow any reference to be replaced using Citoid

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/483337

matmarex claimed this task.

I'm going to call this resolved, per the previous comment:

It is not exactly easy, but with that patch, it is at least possible again – you can open the "basic" reference dialog for citations using Edit → Replace reference → Manual → Basic form. See screenshots in T208981#4868393.

Note that "Replace reference" has been renamed to "Change reference type" in the final version, but the behavior is otherwise the same.