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Alert users when moving over protection with Special:MovePage
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When using the webui, have Special:MovePage present a warning (similar to MediaWiki:Delete and move text) when the destination of the move is subject to protection. Even if it doesn't need an extra tick box (like deletion does) and just needed the user to click move again.

Currently there isn't a warning given to a user if they perform an action using Special:MovePage which is restricted (discounting if the target exists).

Examples:

  • Destination title is a new page and has any create=x protection in place
  • Destination title is an existing page and has any edit=x protection in place

See also this discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Warning_for_admins_moving_pages_to_create.3Dsysop_pages
(Permalink to current version - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=639902839#Warning_for_admins_moving_pages_to_create.3Dsysop_pages).

See also discussion of mechanics options here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Page_mover/Archive_2#Adding_warning_for_page_moves_to_certain_targets

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Related Changes in Gerrit:
SubjectRepoBranchLines +/-
Fix typo and improve consistency in move-related messagesmediawiki/coremaster+3 -3
Adjust handling of talk page and protections when moving pagesmediawiki/coremaster+375 -120
Customize query in gerrit

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Callanecc created this task.Dec 28 2014, 5:04 AM
Callanecc raised the priority of this task from to Needs Triage.
Callanecc updated the task description. (Show Details)
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Mike_V subscribed.Dec 28 2014, 5:10 AM
Glaisher added a project: MediaWiki-General.Dec 28 2014, 5:13 AM
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Aklapper triaged this task as Lowest priority.Dec 28 2014, 11:10 PM
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• Reguyla moved this task from To triage to Special:MergeHistory on the MediaWiki-Special-pages board.May 26 2015, 2:43 AM
JJMC89 subscribed.May 10 2016, 1:40 AM
Xaosflux subscribed.May 29 2016, 1:46 AM
Xaosflux added a comment.EditedMay 29 2016, 1:50 AM

I'd like to be able to include a message for any of these conditions:

IF (move target) was previously deleted : Identify this was previously deleted AND show last deletion log entry

IF (move target) collides with the title blacklist : Identify this is on the black list AND show expression hit(s)

IF (move target) has a create protection level : Identify this has a protection level AND show last protection log entry
Xaosflux updated the task description. (Show Details)May 29 2016, 2:16 AM
Jenks24 subscribed.May 29 2016, 12:55 PM

Thanks to those who have pointed me here after my inquiries at the en.wp's village pump. I see this is currently unassigned, does anyone know any devs who might be interested in this that I could try to prod into working on it?

Omni_Flames subscribed.May 29 2016, 10:36 PM
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andymw added a project: MediaWiki-Page-editing.EditedOct 17 2016, 9:10 PM
andymw updated the task description. (Show Details)

Updated original to archive link.
If the destination page was not "deleted" but moved with suppressredirect, would the deletion log still show (as it does in other circumstances)? As for the additional warnings, should a create prot level warning at semi (and extendedconfirmed for enwiki) show? Also assuming that bots and automated processes would need to be be unaffected by the additional warnings.

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Xaosflux changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Jul 3 2018, 1:25 AM
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TTO subscribed.Aug 27 2018, 1:10 AM

Why is this marked "Stalled"? What is blocking it? If it's just been set to "Stalled" because no-one is currently working on it, it should be set to "Open".

Aklapper changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Aug 27 2018, 5:37 AM

No reason was given hence reopening.

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tyw7 awarded a token.Aug 30 2018, 1:29 AM
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This seems like a useful task. It would be nice for an admin to know if they're moving into a salted page.

MGChecker removed a project: MediaWiki-Page-editing.Nov 15 2018, 10:48 PM
DannyS712 edited projects, added: MediaWiki-Page-rename; removed: MediaWiki-Special-pages.Apr 8 2020, 4:20 PM
Xaosflux added a subtask: T74926: User should be warned if moving a page to a title on the titleblacklist.Feb 26 2022, 11:45 AM
Xaosflux merged a task: T74926: User should be warned if moving a page to a title on the titleblacklist.Feb 26 2022, 11:47 AM
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Xaosflux changed the subtype of this task from "Task" to "Feature Request".
Xaosflux added a project: TitleBlacklist.
Xaosflux added subscribers: OdMishehu, vvv.
Xaosflux raised the priority of this task from Lowest to Medium.Feb 26 2022, 11:53 AM
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Pppery merged a task: T91129: No warning that page is salted when moving over a salted page.Jul 20 2023, 2:32 AM
Pppery added subscribers: Anna_Frodesiak, Pppery, Krenair.
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Pppery reopened subtask T74926: User should be warned if moving a page to a title on the titleblacklist as Open.Nov 20 2025, 2:08 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Nov 20 2025, 4:11 AM

Change #1207414 had a related patch set uploaded (by Pppery; author: Pppery):

[mediawiki/core@master] Adjust handling of talk page and protections when moving pages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1207414

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Nov 20 2025, 4:11 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Nov 20 2025, 4:31 AM

Change #1207414 had a related patch set uploaded (by Pppery; author: Pppery):

[mediawiki/core@master] Adjust handling of talk page and protections when moving pages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1207414

gerritbot added a comment.Dec 23 2025, 9:19 PM

Change #1207414 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] Adjust handling of talk page and protections when moving pages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1207414

Pppery closed this task as Resolved.Dec 23 2025, 9:23 PM
Pppery removed projects: Patch-For-Review, TitleBlacklist.

itshappening

Pppery renamed this task from Alert users when performing restricted actions with Special:MovePage to Alert users when moving over protection with Special:MovePage.Dec 23 2025, 9:24 PM
Pppery updated the task description. (Show Details)

(I've split out the titleblacklist use case to T74926 since that's more technically complicated due to core-extension hook interactions and I don't plan to work on it)

Pppery mentioned this in T12814: Administrators should be able to also delete destination discussion pages when moving over a page with a discussion page.Dec 23 2025, 9:26 PM
gerritbot added a comment.Dec 26 2025, 3:09 AM

Change #1221055 had a related patch set uploaded (by Dragoniez; author: Dragoniez):

[mediawiki/core@master] Fix typo and improve consistency in move-related messages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1221055

gerritbot added a project: Patch-For-Review.Dec 26 2025, 3:09 AM
gerritbot added a comment.Dec 26 2025, 4:43 AM

Change #1221055 merged by jenkins-bot:

[mediawiki/core@master] Fix typo and improve consistency in move-related messages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1221055

Dragoniez removed a project: Patch-For-Review.Dec 26 2025, 6:43 AM
matej_suchanek removed a subtask: T74926: User should be warned if moving a page to a title on the titleblacklist.Dec 31 2025, 2:06 PM
Pppery added a project: MediaWiki-Page-protection.Feb 1 2026, 8:52 PM
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