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Decentralized (P2P?) MediaWiki
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Best regards,

Before we begin, I would like to clarify that this post is a thought I have had for a long time, I hope it is taken seriously by the community.

I've been watching the interests of the Wikimedia Foundation often impede the progress of their projects, creating chapters and elites that eat away like cancer, best of users.

Some improvements to mediawiki are also detained simply because it is not the priority, or by different explanations often inconsistent.

I think it is time to think about a mechanism that does not require a centralized server, which is not subject to the laws of a country and a company.

My knowledge is not able to find a solution to this problem and perhaps
at this time is a dream. However, with the evolution of P2P networks and different protocols, could be created a decentralized and replicable mechanism changes that support mediawiki.

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Wilfredor created this task.Jan 7 2015, 10:57 AM
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Krenair edited projects, added MediaWiki-General; removed Wikimedia-Prototype-server.Jan 7 2015, 11:07 AM
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Aklapper lowered the priority of this task from Medium to Lowest.Jan 7 2015, 12:58 PM

I am not sure what this task is about and which problem you would like to solve.
You might want to come up with a problem description, separate from one possible solution.

Furthermore, I don't think that such a discussion can be handled via a task in Phabricator. This requires a much broader audience as it requires fundamental changes to the MediaWiki software and parts of the network stack. Have you proposed this on forums and on mailing lists already?

Aklapper renamed this task from Wikimedia servers decentralized to Decentralized (P2P?) MediaWiki.Jan 7 2015, 12:58 PM
Platonides subscribed.Jan 7 2015, 2:40 PM

I think the idea of a P2P wiki appeared a long time ago in the mailing list.

However, this task is about the priorities of Wikimedia Foundation. MediaWiki improvements don't need that (however, you may need to code/fund it yourself or convince other people to do that).

I suppose that the phrase «not require a centralized server, which is not subject to the laws of a country and a company.» is meant about Wikimedia projects. But note that most law-related restrictions do not come from Wikimedia Foundation, but from the communities striving to provide free content (and unfriendly laws).

I agree with aklapper that providing the wikis in a decentralised way would be very problematic (eg. do you still want to block vandals?) and should be discussed at different forums before.

Ricordisamoa subscribed.Jan 7 2015, 3:25 PM
• demon subscribed.Jan 7 2015, 6:03 PM
In T85995#959402, @Platonides wrote:

I think the idea of a P2P wiki appeared a long time ago in the mailing list.

More than once and on several lists if memory serves.

• demon unsubscribed.Jan 7 2015, 6:03 PM
Aklapper added a comment.Jan 12 2015, 6:22 PM

Also brought up at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&oldid=146290580#Decentralized_.28P2P.3F.29_MediaWiki by the requestor.

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