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References generated by a template in media captions do not appear in Re-Use Reference list
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Environment- test2, production
Chrome 39, FF 35

1> Cite -> Basic.
2> Insert any citation.
3> In the same Reference dialog, select to insert image.
4> In the media settings dialog insert any citation again.Click to insert the image.
3> Click to insert the reference to the main editor.
4> Open Re-use.Notice the citation inserted in image is not listed in the Re-Use reference dialog.See screenshot

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5> Select to insert the reference from the Re-Use dialog.
6> Now delete the reference that you just added. Notice the previously added reference changes to [0].See screenshot
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Swainr created this task.Jan 18 2015, 6:31 AM
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Swainr added a comment.Jan 18 2015, 6:40 AM

Screencast http://youtu.be/cTDBUrvH-C0

Jdforrester-WMF renamed this task from Citations in image do not appear in Re-Use Reference list. to References in media captions do not appear in Re-Use Reference list.Jan 20 2015, 8:16 PM
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Jdforrester-WMF merged a task: T90481: Correct transclusions when marking templates for translation on mediawiki.org.Feb 25 2015, 7:56 PM
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Jdforrester-WMF added a subtask: T49344: Internal nodes should eventually be in a separate document ("sub-documents").Feb 25 2015, 7:59 PM
Jdforrester-WMF added a parent task: T67301: If a reference is defined in a template, and re-used outside of it, and you delete the template, then the reference contents get lost; similarly, copying citations defined inside a template doesn't work.Feb 25 2015, 8:02 PM
Jdforrester-WMF added a parent task: T68736: VisualEditor: Please strip trailing spaces and returns from media or image captions.
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Jdforrester-WMF merged a task: T90480: Citoid: Reopening the Web Reference in media shows the details of the first entry(valid/ invalid-URL /DOI; whatever was entered first in the "Autofill from URL" dialog upon initialization).Feb 25 2015, 8:11 PM
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Lena_WMDE mentioned this in T334074: Investigation: Reusing refs across dialogs in VE (image caption, citation dialog).Apr 11 2023, 7:51 AM
thiemowmde mentioned this in T334837: Make VisualEditor remove automatic reference names when they get orphaned.Apr 18 2023, 3:52 PM
lilients_WMDE mentioned this in T334075: Investigation: Re-use ref tags from templates.May 10 2023, 1:57 PM
thiemowmde mentioned this in T336417: Reusing references inside and from a VE image/gallery dialog.May 11 2023, 8:12 AM
WMDE-Fisch subscribed.May 11 2023, 8:38 AM

Note: The issue here is not that the ref is added in the media caption. This would work. The issue is, that the ref is generated by a template. - Could be that solving the issue for refs generated by templates resolves this issue as well but I'm not sure. So I'll at least link it but do not close it as duplicate.

T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text.

WMDE-Fisch renamed this task from References in media captions do not appear in Re-Use Reference list to References generated by a template in media captions do not appear in Re-Use Reference list.May 11 2023, 8:39 AM
WMDE-Fisch mentioned this in T52474: In VisualEditor, references in templates cannot be reused and are numbered separately from references in the text..
thiemowmde closed this task as Resolved.May 11 2023, 9:07 AM
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I can't tell when and why this changed, but as of now this works as expected. The references appear in the re-use dialog.

Besides, what the screencast shows is not even possible (any more?). There is no way to put a <ref> in a <ref>. That would at least require the use of {{#tag:ref|…}}, which was never done by VisualEditor, as far as I can tell. What's demoed is still partially possible in VisualEditor but actually creates invalid wikitext. But that's another issue.

WMDE-Fisch added a comment.May 11 2023, 9:25 AM

This seems to be a perfect example of total confusion on what the actual issue is. The bottom line still seems the issue that references generated by a template can not be reused. I can confirm that the way that this is done in the original task description is not even reproducible anymore. So let's close it. There's the other ticket for the generic problem of re-using references from templates.

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