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Consider possibility of enabling Flow on translatewiki.net
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There are some investigations about Flow ongoing. This task merely lists what are the blockers to avoid regressions in TWN-specific matters.

It's not going to list blockers which are such for any wiki, nor to be a full list of requirements, nor to list "nice to have" which we never had or can't have in LQT or wikitext or others.

I've read the documentation for Flow but it didn't address most of the TWN workflows. Some more things to check are the TWN reports against LQT (minus fatals and exceptions, usually LQT-specific).

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StatusSubtypeAssignedTask
 InvalidNemo_bisT88102 Consider possibility of enabling Flow on translatewiki.net
 ResolvedEBernhardsonT87793 P2. Category support for Topic pages -- for translatewiki.net
 OpenNoneT88104 Support setting SemanticMediaWiki properties from topic summaries (Translatewiki)
 OpenNoneT88105 Allow to access topic title via summary SMW properties (Translatewiki)
 OpenNoneT88107 Ensure RSS feeds of SMW queries against Flow topics embed and link something meaningful (Translatewiki)
 OpenNoneT88110 Allow autoarchived talk browsing with timestamp-based offset (Translatewiki)
 InvalidNoneT88111 Flow must play well with CleanChanges (Translatewiki)
 ResolvedNoneT72513 R2. Bad Flow link targets in usenewrc (Enhanced RC) in watchlist and recentchanges (Portuguese)
 OpenNoneT92524 Expanded view of Enhanced Recent Changes and Watchlist is not correct for Flow
 ResolvedNoneT47088 Create a script to extract all data from LiquidThreads and import into Flow
 ResolvedEBernhardsonT76120 most LQT conversions put HTML of LQT conversion template in Flow board header, not the template invocation (LQT conversion -- is this a duplicate?)
 ResolvedEBernhardsonT87795 P1. Fix problems with importing translatewiki.net Support page
 ResolvedDannyHT88113 Make links to MediaWiki pages clickable in summary from the topic or talk (Translatewiki)
 OpenNoneT78253 Features for refactoring conversations (reassigning authors, splitting posts, moving/reindenting posts), etc.
 DuplicateNoneT95113 Allow moving a Flow topic to a different page
 DuplicateNoneT95115 Allow moving a comment/topic to an existing topic in another Flow talk page
 OpenNoneT95118 Allow changing the parent of a reply in a Flow topic (i.e. indent and/or outdent posts)
 OpenNoneT97983 Flow should support splitting and merging messages
 OpenNoneT97986 Flow should support re-signatures
 OpenNoneT90054 Split topic
 OpenNoneT88140 Moving topics between boards
 OpenNoneT95012 Decide how to represent moving / attaching/detaching topics in history and dumps
 DuplicateArlolraT94949 Interwiki links to other MediaWiki wikis in the same cluster don't encode section fragment
 OpenNoneT131957 NewUserMessage should handle Flow properly; affects gomwiki/Konkani Wikipedia and kabwiki
 OpenNoneT123522 Implement a server-side mw.MessagePoster equivalent

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Nemo_bis created this task.Jan 30 2015, 12:06 PM
Nemo_bis raised the priority of this task from to Low.
Nemo_bis updated the task description. (Show Details)
Nemo_bis added a project: translatewiki.net.
Nemo_bis added subscribers: Nemo_bis, siebrand, DannyH and 3 others.
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Nemo_bis added a subtask: T87793: P2. Category support for Topic pages -- for translatewiki.net.Jan 30 2015, 12:07 PM
Liuxinyu970226 removed a subscriber: Liuxinyu970226.Jan 30 2015, 12:07 PM
Nemo_bis changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Jan 30 2015, 12:14 PM
Nemo_bis moved this task from Backlog to External on the translatewiki.net board.
Nemo_bis added subtasks: T87795: P1. Fix problems with importing translatewiki.net Support page, T88105: Allow to access topic title via summary SMW properties (Translatewiki).
Nemo_bis set Security to None.
Nemo_bis added subtasks: T88107: Ensure RSS feeds of SMW queries against Flow topics embed and link something meaningful (Translatewiki), T88110: Allow autoarchived talk browsing with timestamp-based offset (Translatewiki), T88111: Flow must play well with CleanChanges (Translatewiki), T47088: Create a script to extract all data from LiquidThreads and import into Flow, T88113: Make links to MediaWiki pages clickable in summary from the topic or talk (Translatewiki), T78253: Features for refactoring conversations (reassigning authors, splitting posts, moving/reindenting posts), etc..Jan 30 2015, 1:07 PM
Nemo_bis updated the task description. (Show Details)Jan 30 2015, 1:11 PM
Nemo_bis added a subscriber: Quiddity.

@Quiddity, can you test/verify those reports to check what other regressions there could be among past issues?

• Mattflaschen-WMF added projects: StructuredDiscussions, MediaWiki-extensions-LiquidThreads, Collaboration-Team-Triage.Jan 30 2015, 7:19 PM
• Mattflaschen-WMF added a subscriber: • Mattflaschen-WMF.
DannyH closed subtask T88113: Make links to MediaWiki pages clickable in summary from the topic or talk (Translatewiki) as Resolved.Feb 2 2015, 7:59 PM
DannyH closed subtask T87793: P2. Category support for Topic pages -- for translatewiki.net as Resolved.Feb 24 2015, 6:23 PM
DannyH closed subtask T87795: P1. Fix problems with importing translatewiki.net Support page as Resolved.
Ricordisamoa added a subscriber: Ricordisamoa.Mar 19 2015, 8:07 PM
• Mattflaschen-WMF closed subtask T47088: Create a script to extract all data from LiquidThreads and import into Flow as Resolved.Apr 23 2015, 3:36 AM
Nemo_bis closed this task as Invalid.Sep 2 2015, 12:25 PM
Nemo_bis claimed this task.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2015-September/082993.html

• Mattflaschen-WMF reopened this task as Open.Sep 16 2015, 4:21 AM

"Flow will be maintained and supported, and communities that are excited about Flow discussions will be able to use it."

• Mattflaschen-WMF removed Nemo_bis as the assignee of this task.Sep 16 2015, 4:21 AM
Nemo_bis closed this task as Invalid.Sep 16 2015, 7:45 AM
Nemo_bis claimed this task.

Doesn't change substance, see also https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2015-September/083076.html (unanswered).
AFAICT, blockers are insurmountable, update them if not; additionally, TWN will not take up the risk to be forced to maintain Flow for years as happened with LQT.

Nemo_bis removed projects: Collaboration-Team-Triage, MediaWiki-extensions-LiquidThreads, StructuredDiscussions.Sep 16 2015, 7:47 AM
• Mattflaschen-WMF added projects: MediaWiki-extensions-LiquidThreads, StructuredDiscussions.Sep 16 2015, 6:49 PM

I'm not going to edit war with you about the status. I'm sure if Niklas and Siebrand want to get in touch with us about this, they will.

However, don't remove projects that are clearly relevant. Even if we decide not to do this, those projects are still connected, and this should still be searchable. We don't remove projects from invalid bugs or declined feature requests, etc.

Restricted Application added a project: Collaboration-Team-Triage. · View Herald TranscriptSep 16 2015, 6:49 PM
SamanthaNguyen added a subscriber: SamanthaNguyen.Sep 26 2016, 2:50 AM
Nemo_bis added a subtask: T94949: Interwiki links to other MediaWiki wikis in the same cluster don't encode section fragment.Dec 3 2016, 10:31 PM
Arlolra closed subtask T94949: Interwiki links to other MediaWiki wikis in the same cluster don't encode section fragment as Resolved.Dec 7 2016, 10:12 PM
Nemo_bis added a subtask: T131957: NewUserMessage should handle Flow properly; affects gomwiki/Konkani Wikipedia and kabwiki.Jan 5 2017, 7:56 AM
Restricted Application added a project: Growth-Team. · View Herald TranscriptAug 28 2018, 1:04 PM
Nikerabbit closed subtask T88111: Flow must play well with CleanChanges (Translatewiki) as Invalid.May 26 2020, 6:18 AM
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