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Only use -devtools irc channel for phab-related ticket announcements
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Background: I initially proposed (a while ago) to merge -qa, -releng, and -devtools into -releng. We only did the -qa part. But we also duplicated (most? all?) of the -devtools wikibugs notifications to -releng.

Now: The signal/noise ratio is too low in -releng and I think we can decide to keep -devtools for the foreseeable future (especially with the Gerrit migration on the horizon).

Next (my proposal): Remove any phab/gerrit/migration/etc wikibugs announcements from -releng (make sure they're in -devtools).

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sounds good to me

Why wasn't -devtools merged into -releng?

Now: The signal/noise ratio is too low in -releng and I think we can decide to keep -devtools for the foreseeable future (especially with the Gerrit migration on the horizon).

Which team is going to be taking ownership of the migration? I'm it's going to be releng (+ops), meaning that it makes sense for those bugs to be in -releng...

Why wasn't -devtools merged into -releng?

Because it was good to have a dedicated channel for the bugzilla->phab migration, and it will undoubtedly be so for the gerrit->phab migration.

Now: The signal/noise ratio is too low in -releng and I think we can decide to keep -devtools for the foreseeable future (especially with the Gerrit migration on the horizon).

Which team is going to be taking ownership of the migration? I'm it's going to be releng (+ops), meaning that it makes sense for those bugs to be in -releng...

RelEng, but, as I said, a dedicated channel for the migration makes sense.

But, seriously, the signal to noise is far too low for every single little thing that might be in the RelEng bailiwick to be announced in -releng. Don't make me just announce Release-Engineering-Team updates only :)

Because it was good to have a dedicated channel for the bugzilla->phab migration

I think it would have been better for that not to be in a separate channel. just my 2 cents.

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Change 189901 had a related patch set uploaded (by Greg Grossmeier):
Remove Phabricator and Code-Review from -releng

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189901

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Why wasn't -devtools merged into -releng?

Because it was good to have a dedicated channel for the bugzilla->phab migration, and it will undoubtedly be so for the gerrit->phab migration.

There's always #wikimedia-tech (or even #wikimedia) for actual discussion, both of which are now largely bot-free. :-)

Change 189901 merged by jenkins-bot:
Remove Phabricator and Code-Review from -releng

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/189901

greg closed this task as Resolved.EditedFeb 11 2015, 6:29 PM

Change 189901 merged by jenkins-bot:

Thanks @Legoktm. And your statement of non-agreement is noted (seriously). This (what bugs are announced in -releng) is always up for change/discussion/etc. Never set in stone. We'll probably re-assess when our priorities change again and Phab is higher on the list.

greg triaged this task as Medium priority.Feb 11 2015, 6:29 PM