Create a system to store and query links to books
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It would be really nice if we can have a table that stores book links (ISBN \d{10,13}) and make it query-able for people.

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MediaWiki-Core-Team ? I would start with Wikidata and perhaps Citoid

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That is pretty much what the Wikidata query service will provide.

Lydia_Pintscher moved this task from incoming to hold on the Wikidata board.Feb 26 2015, 1:46 PM

I think I wrote the description so short that this misunderstanding happened:
1- Go to an article with an ISBN link on it (hereafter book link). e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Farm
2- If you check you will see that "ISBN 0-452-28424-4" automagically converted to a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/0452284244
3- I want a thing that can store book links (and normalize it like converting ISBN 10s to ISBN 13s) in a table like external links table and make an special page similar to LinkSearch (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:LinkSearch)

So it is a part of mediawiki core.

Yes, but storing it in a database allows more flexible tasks like normalizing ISBN.

I would like to choose this as a possible project for my Outreachy application.I recognize that I am reaching the deadline for doing so.The only aspect left is to add a new Phabricator task.I have 8 years of experience as an assistant librarian and am familiar with ISBN.I am transitioning from Library work into Computer Programming,starting new classes in Fall 2015.Mentorship would be greatly appreciated.

Mvolz added a subscriber: Mvolz.EditedMar 27 2015, 7:12 PM

@CeruleanDreamer, this is likely not something that wmf would support as an outreachy project as we already have different projects working towards this goal, as @Lydia_Pintscher mentioned. However, if you're interested in this sort of thing, the citoid project overall seems like it might interest you: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/62/ (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Citoid) As well as the wikidata project in general (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikibase)

I can think of a few similar projects to this one that might be suitable for outreachy, but the deadline has already passed (March 24). There are some organizations that have extended that deadline but WMF is not one of those, see: https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/2015/MayAugust#Organizations_for_which_Applications_are_Closed

@Qgil, is it fair to say we can no longer accept applications for this outreachy round?

Thank you for responding.I will check into the links that you have shared.

@CeruleanDreamer, could you email me at nkohli@wikimedia.org regarding Outreachy? We may have some opportunity to adjust you in.

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Mvolz added a comment.Oct 8 2015, 5:34 PM

FYI, this is similar to an idea lab for IEG (written mostly by me) here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Tools_for_using_wikidata_items_as_citations if anyone is interested in this one. I don't really have time to do it (and eligibility would be a bit questionable as I'm a WMF contractor now), so if someone wants to take that idea and apply with it feel free! It has fair bit of community support... just no developers :).

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Hi. I'd love to work on this as a project as an Outreachy intern, this is so exciting! I love structured data and have been using Dbpedia and Sparql for the last 6 months. I suggest as a first microtask, I can use the wikidata api to search if the cited source exists already in Wikidata. Would any of the subscribers be interested in mentoring this for me?

Mvolz added a comment.EditedOct 17 2015, 7:34 AM

@Minervaxox I'd be willing to mentor on this one. Keep in mind that the IEG/IdeaLab grants are *much* larger in scope than what we'd do for outreachy- I'd suggest taking the bit about inserting books/references into wikidata programmatically as the core of an outreachy project. That alone could definitely could keep someone occupied for 3 months (or longer!). Microtask sounds fine.

For another mentor (provided no one else here responds) looking for someone with wikidata expertise would be ideal as I have no experience there. There's a wikidata mailing list- https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

I would suggest fleshing out your proposal first though before looking for mentors besides those cc-ed here, so potential mentors have a better idea of what you want to do.

Also, various links that might be informative:

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Sdjqnkr8ofyw0isf
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Source_MetaData#Source_type_names
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools

Mvolz added a comment.Oct 17 2015, 1:05 PM

This wikidata tutorial was just shared to the wikidata list: http://www.slideshare.net/_Emw/an-ambitious-wikidata-tutorial#39

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Qgil added a comment.Mar 2 2016, 10:29 AM

This task is assigned to @Ladsgroup so I wonder whether it is a Possible-Tech-Projects candidate at all.

Hey, I had plans to work on this, but not right now. I already have a lot in my plate. And I'm not sure what would be the best approach. Some people say it's better to have it as a part of Wikidata [1]. Someone suggested we build another table and store ISBNs (like external links) and in that case, an extension would be better or integrated with the core? I think maybe ArcCom is the best body of developers to determine this. And then we can move on to implementing.

[1]: I think it's not a good idea. If we use a book in references in Wikipedia, there is no way to put it in wikidata.

Ladsgroup removed Ladsgroup as the assignee of this task.Mar 2 2016, 8:33 PM

Thank you for your explanation, which shows that is indeed not a good candidate for Possible-Tech-Projects right now.

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