Validate which Flow moves are allowed?
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	• Mattflaschen-WMF
	Apr 16 2015, 9:58 PM

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As a user on mediawiki.org (not my staff account) , if I rename (move) a page, that already has a Flow board attached, then the Flow board is left behind at the old location, because I don't have rights to create a Flow board, and hence cannot even move one. E.g.

Trying to move a page, with Move associated talk page checked:

Trying to move just the Flow board itself:

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		Open		None	T96304 Validate which Flow moves are allowed?
		Open		None	T126229 flow-create-board for bureaucrats?, global renamers? stewards (done) (and "Global rename script" ?)

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• Mattflaschen-WMF created this task.Apr 16 2015, 9:58 PM

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• Mattflaschen-WMF renamed this task from Validate which Flow moves are allowed to Validate which Flow moves are allowed?.Apr 16 2015, 9:58 PM

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• Mattflaschen-WMF mentioned this in T72073: U4. Special page to enable Flow on existing wikitext talk pages, auto-archiving the wikitext page (v2).Apr 16 2015, 10:06 PM

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I've overhauled the description, unset the priority, and moved to 'current' workboard primarily to re-triage the difficulty. Needs team discussion, on the available options (of how to give everyone the ability to do page-moves as expected, but without prematurely opening up FlowEnable via page-moves).

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Trizek-WMF mentioned this in T116785: Try all possible admin actions concerning Flow.Nov 6 2015, 2:24 PM

Catrope triaged this task as Medium priority.Dec 19 2015, 1:35 AM

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• Mattflaschen-WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)Apr 11 2016, 9:39 PM

So there were two parts to this before:

Should we continue our current policy on Flow board moves (you need to be able to create them at the destination)?
If you move the subject (non-talk) but can't move the talk, the talk gets orphaned.

Should we limit it to #2?

• jmatazzoni edited projects, added Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4; removed Collaboration-Team-Archive-2015-2016.Apr 11 2016, 11:21 PM

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Catrope edited projects, added Collaboration-Team-Triage; removed Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016.Aug 15 2016, 9:39 PM

Catrope moved this task from Freezer to Flow Holding Area on the Collaboration-Team-Triage board.

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Quiddity updated the task description. (Show Details)Nov 8 2016, 6:41 PM

@Quiddity What about this sysop-only way (mentioned by @Bluedeck on zhwiki: https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:互助客栈/技术#.E6.89.BE.E5.88.B0.E4.BA.86.E7.A7.BB.E5.8A.A8flow.E9.A1.B5.E9.9D.A2.E7.9A.84.E6.96.B9.E6.B3.95)