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Is this proposal about a new wiki in the Wikimedia family? Have you considered a category / wikiproject / portal / you-name-it within Wikimedia Commons? See my related comment T3790#1141309

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In T99453#1292898, @Qgil wrote:

Is this proposal about a new wiki in the Wikimedia family?

in my mind it is more a new wiki in the wikimedia family,
the wiki of "objects". (like wikibook)

Have you considered a category / wikiproject / portal / you-name-it within Wikimedia Commons?

it could be a new category in the wikimedia commons, "3D files".

See my related comment T3790#1141309

it is larger than just supporting the integration of 3D print file , but it's one part of the project.
interesting post.

In T99453#1292898, @Qgil wrote:

Have you considered a category within Wikimedia Commons?

it is not just 3d printing file, it is vectorial files too. maybe another category.

In T99453#1293242, @Clemclemmm wrote:

in my mind it is more a new wiki in the wikimedia family,
the wiki of "objects". (like wikibook)

Creating a new type of wiki in the Wikimedia family takes a lot of energy, time, and supporters. Wikidata and Wikivoyage are the last ones, created years ago. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects

I think your chances of success would be significantly bigger if you contribute your energies to improve the scope of Wikimedia Commons, but this is the last time I will try to convince you, since I'm no expert or stakeholder in this topic. :)

In T99453#1293311, @Qgil wrote:

In T99453#1293242, @Clemclemmm wrote:

in my mind it is more a new wiki in the wikimedia family,
the wiki of "objects". (like wikibook)

Creating a new type of wiki in the Wikimedia family takes a lot of energy, time, and supporters. Wikidata and Wikivoyage are the last ones, created years ago. See https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_new_projects

i understand, and i agreed ^^

I think your chances of success would be significantly bigger if you contribute your energies to improve the scope of Wikimedia Commons, but this is the last time I will try to convince you, since I'm no expert or stakeholder in this topic. :)

i think it will be a first good step :-)

+1 to @Qgil. A good first step would be to allow uploading 3D to Commons, as part of the long standing T3790. I would say based on how the new functionality works on Commons, we can then discuss creating an entire new project. There is no lack of stl repositories on the web, and those other platforms already have their communities, and github also comes handy with stl files. The only significant different this new wiki would bring, is that it wouldn't be owned by a company..but what else?

In T99453#1293316, @Moushira wrote:

+1 to @Qgil. A good first step would be to allow uploading 3D to Commons, as part of the long standing T3790.

the important question is : how can we do that ? because it is a need since 2005, and still not yet allow on the system ... who knows the prrocedur about that ?

I would say based on how the new functionality works on Commons, we can then discuss creating an entire new project.

yes, it can be later.
step by step

There is no lack of stl repositories on the web, and those other platforms already have their communities,

they have their communities because nothing was possible anywhere else before, so most people goes there. it's only hobbyiest of the reprap community who uploads on thingiverse. it's a small comunity, not the design community, not the architecture community, not the fablab community (not all), not the ommunity of people owning a proprietary 3dprinter.

and github also comes handy with stl files. The only significant different this new wiki would bring, is that it wouldn't be owned by a company..but what else?

it will be the first really commons object database, which we know that will not disapear.

the only difference between Encarta, Roberts, and other existing encyclopedia you can buy is just that you have to go in a bookstore and pay to get the knowledge of the world ?
wikipedia is just larger than just the community of people who write the books, no ?

In T99453#1293316, @Moushira wrote:

+1 to @Qgil. A good first step would be to allow uploading 3D to Commons, as part of the long standing T3790.

does our meeting will just be another meeting about the subject, or is it possible to change the wikimediafundationpolitics about it ?

We should discuss the problems of T3790 in T3790, but I think that a main problem there has been the lack of champions pushing for a specific format. If you choose one open source format, rally its supporters to join your cause, and follow up on whatever arguments are raised against, your chances of success will increase notably.

PS: in the description you mention SVG, which is already support. You also mention proprietary formats, which have basically zero chances of being accepted in Wikimedia.

@Clemclemmm, I will be happy to talk more about this in the hackathon. It is very hard to decide on a dedicated wiki before we test how things work on Commons. As a standalone project it should offer more than what others already does. Cheers :)