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Apr 25 2015

Jsalsman added a parent task for T4994: Automatically generated count and list of contributors to an article (authorship tracking): T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Apr 25 2015, 6:37 PM · MediaWiki-Page-history

Mar 5 2015

Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@Qgil, I agree that a read-only bot doesn't exactly fit into the category of interface changes which were imposed without prior discussion of their impact on editors, let alone consensus. I would go somewhat further and suggest that these are completely different categories altogether. I maintain, as I told Brian, that there is simply no way to conduct such a discussion without measuring the bot before offering it to any given Wikipedia. How is it possible to know what it might require from editors, and how much it can offer in return, without building it, testing it, and measuring it first?

Mar 5 2015, 4:08 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Mar 4 2015

Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Mar 4 2015, 8:10 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@Halfak, I see now that mediawiki-utilities has all the bot features needed, and I don't see anything in pywikibot upon which anything here depends, so since mediawiki-utilities has the better text age and attribution, I suppose dependencies on pywikibot ought to be removed.

Mar 4 2015, 8:08 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@Bawolff, I don't understand what you mean by "stakeholders." The goal is to create a bot which assists in identifying out-of-date, inaccurate, and confusing content, packaging excerpts of those passages for review, accepting reviewers' responses for whether and how the passages should be updated, and tabulating those responses. It's intended to be used on any wiki in any language which is facing out-of-date content issues. Is it appropriate to have a conversation with the people who might benefit from such a bot before it's been implemented and some semblance of measurements have been made on its capability, utility, and requirements for production use? What would the topics of such a conversation entail?

Mar 4 2015, 8:05 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Mar 1 2015

Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@jayvdb, we are proposing an application of pywikibot, i.e., a bot, not changes to the pywikibot code, aren't we? Pywikibot core is compatible with Python 3.4, so we can certainly use both it and mediawiki-utilities in the same bot.

Mar 1 2015, 6:31 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Feb 26 2015

Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@jayvdb, I took the liberty of listing you as a co-mentor, since not having to deal with the dumps per T89763#1066043 makes this much easier.

Feb 26 2015, 1:15 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman moved T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias from Backlog to Featured Project Ideas on the Google-Summer-of-Code (2015) board.
Feb 26 2015, 1:10 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 26 2015, 1:10 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89761: Create new Python library to serialize Wikimedia Quiz format, GIFT quiz format, and allow round-trip conversions between the two formats. .
Feb 26 2015, 12:57 AM · Pywikibot, Outreachy (Round-13), Pywikibot-Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-Quiz
Jsalsman removed a project from T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias: Datasets-General-or-Unknown.
Feb 26 2015, 12:50 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 26 2015, 12:49 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman closed T89763: wikiwho on pywikibot, a subtask of T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias, as Resolved.
Feb 26 2015, 12:44 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman closed T89763: wikiwho on pywikibot as Resolved.

@Halfak, thank you so much for this; what a tremendous help!

Feb 26 2015, 12:44 AM · Pywikibot

Feb 22 2015

Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@Qgil, does this now reflect the correct application process for this year? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Accuracy_review#Application

Feb 22 2015, 7:31 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman added a comment to T89763: wikiwho on pywikibot.

@Halfak, would you please show the code outline for how to use http://pythonhosted.org/mediawiki-utilities/lib/persistence.html#mw-lib-persistence to obtain the age of a given unique word (for purposes of example let's say an article is titled "Economy of Jakarta" with a string in question as "GRDP (Gross Regional Domestic Product) was Rp. 566 trillion" with the specific word of which we want to know the age being "566".) Does it start with dumps and annotate them, or do a WikiBlame-style binary search on revisions, for starters?

Feb 22 2015, 6:56 PM · Pywikibot
Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@Qgil, in hopes that this can be moved out of "needs discussion" (1) are there any reasons that this design as a read-only bot can't be applied to any Wikipedia or other wiki in any language, at any hosting organization, and with any community rules allowing read access to pages and their history? (2) Can you please show me a preferred form of questions for student applicants for this year's GSoC so I can get this task and the mediawiki.org page in conformance with this year's format? And accordingly, can https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreach_programs/Application_template be updated to direct students to create their application in phabricator?

Feb 22 2015, 6:31 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Feb 20 2015

Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@Qgil, this project is specified as strictly read-only relative to any wiki. It looks for configurable patterns to match facts and statistics, and when it finds them over a certain age, makes a list of them (not necessarily on the same wiki as they came from), prepares them in GIFT format for human review, presents those GIFT questions to human reviewers, and keeps track of the answers in a way that would optionally allow the same or a different human to fold them back in to the source wiki as correction edits, but does not require that final step. Is there anything that would prevent it being run on any Wikipedia? Is community approval necessary for any step of that specified process?

Feb 20 2015, 4:12 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman renamed T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias from Wikipedia facts analysis with stale data detection to Out-of-date fact and statistics identification and review (was "accuracy review").
Feb 20 2015, 3:41 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

@jayvdb, yes, I'm sure this will work for Indonesian as specified. Please do ask their Wikipedia community if they agree to a trial run.

Feb 20 2015, 3:28 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Feb 17 2015

Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 17 2015, 9:09 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 17 2015, 9:09 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

John, Moodle reads and writes GIFT, converting it to and from other formats. The canonical reference should be https://docs.moodle.org/28/en/GIFT_format
I will update that and put a link to the GIFT parser at https://github.com/moodle/moodle/tree/master/question/format/gift
in the proposal.

Feb 17 2015, 9:05 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Feb 15 2015

Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 15 2015, 6:36 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

John, DELPH-IN is completely language independent, able even to support Chinese variants, but I can't see whether anyone has done anything in Indonesian for it yet. Even if they have, it might be much easier on the student applicants to only suggest it as a possible option, as an alternative to using regular expression lists to match, e.g. numbers occurring in the same sentences as a list of case-independent keywords. Let me have a day or two to make sure that the morphology doesn't impede that and see what's out there for Indonesian.

Feb 15 2015, 5:02 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Feb 14 2015

Jsalsman added a comment to T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.

John, I only just now saw your comment. You would be a fantastic co-mentor, and while I can't read or write Indonesian, I would gladly put in the extra effort with back-translations to help as much as I can. This easily sidesteps the chicken-and-egg issue with the Enwiki BAG too.

Feb 14 2015, 5:27 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Feb 13 2015

Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 9:02 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 6:06 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 5:56 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 5:51 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 5:09 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 5:07 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 5:02 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 4:59 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 4:47 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 12:22 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman updated the task description for T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 13 2015, 12:04 AM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)

Feb 12 2015

Jsalsman moved T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias from Backlog to Need Mentors on the Possible-Tech-Projects board.
Feb 12 2015, 11:45 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)
Jsalsman created T89416: Accuracy review of Wikipedias.
Feb 12 2015, 11:43 PM · Accuracy-Review-of-Wikipedias, Outreachy-Round-12, Google-Summer-of-Code (2016)