I would also really like to have this ability. Does anyone know if there are any other ways to find out this information? Specifically I want to know how many views Media Viewer pages get on English Wikipedia

OK, I was kindly helped by @PrimeHunter

@Aklapper sorry to not include a tag in this, I cant for the life of me find a suitable one

@tstarling I just found this phab ticket after I received the same message, is there anything I can do to upload the file? Its quite important for a project I'm working on with the UN (its the publication I'm extracting all the graphics and text from) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Help_desk#Internal_error:_Server_failed_to_store_temporary_file._(for_pdf)

In T278281#6945468, @Mvolz wrote:

In T278281#6943795, @John_Cummings wrote:

In T278281#6940634, @TheDJ wrote:

I'm not sure how zotero returns channel name and date published, but it's not being returned by citoid at least. The fact that it is on YouTube can be retrieved from the "libraryCatalog": "www.youtube.com" attribute.

thanks, who might know how to fix this?

Potentially we could switch it from using Template:Citation to Template:Cite AV media and configure it to use the libraryCatalog as the work. I don't advise adding the library catalog to "website" on Template:Citation as this will have side effects for other, non youtube things. Of course I'm not sure adding it for videos is great either. Type videoRecording doesn't have a website field in general, these are the available fields: https://aurimasv.github.io/z2csl/typeMap.xml#map-videoRecording

Re: duration - we have that, there just isn't a place to put that in Template:Citation / Template:Cite AV as far as I know. There's "time" but that's to reference a point in time, I think.

Re: failure to get author; could be reported here https://github.com/zotero/translators/issues and potentially be fixed. It looks like there is code in there to set the channel as author.-> https://github.com/zotero/translators/blob/master/YouTube.js#L106 But I think this is javascript loaded html it's scraping, which won't be available to us because we are not a browser and can't execute javascript (zotero used to be but hasn't been for several years now). I did find some schema.org metadata that the translator could use instead that would be available to us, so potentially that's one fix that could go upstream.

In T246901#9324384, @Sj wrote:

In T246901#9226554, @brion wrote:

So if we add server-side rendering, we need a clean way to sandbox it, that works both in standalone installs and via Thumbor, and can be relatively sensibly managed and packaged, and made disableable with a switch-flip.

@Legoktm on SJ's computer here :) We can use Shellbox for sandboxing, which transparently handles standalone installs, but someone will need to do the Thumbor integration. I already ported all the deployed MediaHandlers to use Shellbox so there's plenty of examples from others to copy from!

@Mvolz I'm just coming back to this as I've tried to cite some news channels on Youtube again and it is still quite bad. Is the backend stuff working better now? Is there any way to provide a list of the data you get from Youtube just to see if even the fields can be used better? According to Wikipedia Youtube is the second most used website in the world so its a real issue if the Cite tool creates poor quality citations for Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-visited_websites

Summary of activities https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-ZaMI8FL5b-bO_BRl6zOT9k4RGRn7ITc4hALI67AOUU/edit

@Jopparn I think the draft is done, please check