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Sep 15 2019

Machineghost added a comment to T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.

Well, it really seemed to me that changing the principles of an organization might warrant some institutional thought (eg. in the form of a ticket), but hey if not I'll just add it.

Sep 15 2019, 7:00 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost added a comment to T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 6:59 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost added a comment to T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.

I just want to be clear: you're rejecting the principle that MediaWiki is for everyone because ... of a very specific interpretation (evidently that saying "MediaWiki is for everyone" = "MediaWiki must support Internet Explorer 0.1").

Sep 15 2019, 6:41 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.

What necessary function is broken?

Sep 15 2019, 6:39 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team
Machineghost updated the task description for T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 5:30 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost updated the task description for T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 5:30 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost added a comment to T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.

I should note that there are some within the MediaWiki organization who believe this should instead state:

Sep 15 2019, 5:26 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost updated the task description for T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 5:25 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.

I will re-open if I can get https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232953 through.

Sep 15 2019, 5:24 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team
Machineghost updated the task description for T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 5:24 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost updated the task description for T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 5:23 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost updated the task description for T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 5:22 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost created T232953: MediaWiki Should Have a Stated Principle of Accommodating as Many People As Possible.
Sep 15 2019, 5:22 PM · MediaWiki-General
Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.
Sep 15 2019, 4:54 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team
Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.

According to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Browser_support_matrix , IE versions 6-10 are under "Basic (Grade C)" which already means that "these browsers do not get JavaScript features."

Sep 15 2019, 4:52 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team
Machineghost reopened T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript as "Open".
Sep 15 2019, 4:46 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team

Sep 14 2019

Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.

With all due respect, the difference between this ticket and T178356 is the difference between saying "I'll fix things for a (small) category of users" and saying "screw those users!"

Sep 14 2019, 9:03 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team
Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.

P.S. Another way people may find this same functionality useful is in CSS. Both the popular LESS and SCSS libraries involve doing the exact same thing with CSS code (passing it through a "translator" to output browser-readable code but let people write non-browser-readable code first).

Sep 14 2019, 8:22 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team

Sep 9 2019

Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.

What exactly is the "this" in "accomplish this"? :)

Sep 9 2019, 8:45 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team
Machineghost changed the subtype of T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript from "Task" to "Feature Request".

Honestly I wasn't sure myself. As I said, I started with a Super User question for that very reason, but then when it didn't get any responses I brought it here.

Sep 9 2019, 7:31 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team
Machineghost added a comment to T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.

How performant does it need to be? This operation only has to be run after a Javascript file is saved, not every time it is served.

Sep 9 2019, 4:08 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team

Sep 8 2019

Machineghost created T232285: How to use Babel.js with MediaWiki Javascript.
Sep 8 2019, 6:04 PM · MediaWiki-ResourceLoader, Performance-Team