In T120060#1870841, @Dzahn wrote:

@AddisWang can you suggest a name for the new list that reflects that? Is "wikimedia-asia-collab" ok?

In T120060#1861060, @Dzahn wrote:

Wondering if the existing list Wikimedia-asia-chapters can be used for this.?

The description is " Asian Wikimedia Chapters coordination" which seems to be pretty much the same thing.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters

In T115299#1732809, @Base wrote:

@Shangkuanlc erm doesn't that automatic conversion between zh variants works? Or does it works badly? (Unfortunately I know no Chinese to assert it myself)

The "plan for Chinese Wikipedia" sounds controversial. Who's plan for Chinese Wikipedia?

In T97011#1403626, @Arrbee wrote:

Hi @AddisWang we don't have en-zh translation yet on Apertium, which is the only MT system that is currently available through Content Translation.

Anyone tried that? Is that just my problem that the Content Translation does not support EN-ZH translation?

Anyone tried that? Is that just my problem that the Content Translation does not support EN-ZH translation?

I'll make a new ticket, after having a discussion with other members.

Do you have mail server that we can use as xx@cn.wikimedia.org, or we can find outside service provider?

It will be fine.

Hey guys! Thank you a lot for all these work. I guess it already in the end of the process? I'm not sure. Is there anything that I can do?

These explanations make a lot of sense to me! Thank you all!

In T98676#1288166, @Krenair wrote:

What's confusing?

In T98676#1288142, @Krenair wrote:

In T98676#1288140, @AddisWang wrote:

In T98676#1288066, @Krenair wrote:

In T98676#1287639, @Dereckson wrote:

@greg Could we have a window to create this wiki? Configuration changes (Apache, DNS, config) are ready (I have noone to suggest for this one, it seems last wiki were created by @Dzahn).

Let's wait for SRE to do https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211109/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211112/ - then we can get a window for deployment of the config part.

I don't really understand all this process, but wondering how long may it take?

There is no schedule if that's what you mean. It will happen if the right people approve the right changes and run the right scripts on the servers.

In T98676#1288089, @Slaporte wrote:

In T98676#1288075, @greg wrote:

In T98676#1274501, @Slaporte wrote:

I'll check the policy and get back to you here.

Just confirming: @Slaporte: you're all good here?

Yes, this is consistent with policy. Thanks for confirming.

In T98676#1288066, @Krenair wrote:

In T98676#1287639, @Dereckson wrote:

@greg Could we have a window to create this wiki? Configuration changes (Apache, DNS, config) are ready (I have noone to suggest for this one, it seems last wiki were created by @Dzahn).

Let's wait for SRE to do https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211109/ and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/211112/ - then we can get a window for deployment of the config part.

In T98676#1287532, @Dereckson wrote:

1. We need to prepare the initial wiki configuration. A first draft to review with sensible options is done, and open for improvement if you have any specific need/requirement (namespaces, extensions, user group rights, etc.). Once, this is considered acceptable by everyone, this will be ready to deploy.
2. The second step is the proper deployment and wiki creation. They are documented at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Add_a_wiki if you're curious about the different steps.
3. The wiki is then live. We review together if all seems to work fine and if additional tweaking is required.

We're currently at step 1. You can confirm you're happy with these default settings or give feedback about what else should be configured.

Step 2 won't ask any involvement from your side, it's handled fully at ops-side.

For step 3, you will be able to comment on Phabricator "All works fine." or "This, this, this and that are required."

In T98676#1287485, @Dereckson wrote:

Here we go with the initial wiki configuration proposal:

• Site title: 中国维基媒体用户组
• Language code: zh
• Timezone: Asia/Shanghai
• Configuration: fishbowl, s3, small, wikimedia
• Canonical URL: https://cn.wikimedia.org
• Extensions enabled: Echo, Securepoll

In T98676#1287468, @Dereckson wrote:

How do say "Wikimedia User Group China" in Chinese? (I can see it on the logo, but I don't see it on meta. as text I can copy/paste in the configuration.)

In T98676#1287461, @Varnent wrote:

The AffCom supports Wikimedia User Groups having access to resources such as this. Regarding the subdomain, we have previously decided that the acronyms assigned on the Meta list of all affiliates should be used as they generally remain consistent: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates

-varnent
Vice Chair, AffCom

In T98676#1287462, @Dereckson wrote:

Thanks @Varnent to settle this issue.

Okay, the logo matter and subdomain are now settled.

Do you need the Translate extension to provide zh/en bilingual content or are you going to focus on zh?

Let's revisit also the fishbowl issue please to be sure we have well identified your needs. You said the site "will be a user group members only.". Yes, but the question were more why this will be a user group members only, and not an open like 92% of other chapters/local groups hosted on the WMF cluster (23/25, the only exception being rs.wikimedia.org as fishbowl, and il.wikimedia.org as private)? If I understand the matter, you take wikimediafoundation.org as model to communicate wth the public?

In T98676#1287362, @Dereckson wrote:

Another thing we need is a logo. This logo could be the ideal place to note some "user group" and avoid misidentification, which would then make cn.wikimedia.org use more acceptable, as the logo is as important as the subdomain for visual identity purpose.

In T98676#1286375, @Slaporte wrote:

@AddisWang: Can you talk with your group about your preferred subdomain that includes the word "user group" in some form? I would like user groups to use a pattern similar to "chinausergroup.wikimedia.org" (or abbreviated), to avoid confusion or overlap with other groups. Thanks!

In T98676#1280683, @Dereckson wrote:

@Slaporte Thank you for clarification.

@AddisWang a last detail: you noted subdomain: cn.wikimedia.org (maybe), we need the definitive subdomain to proceed.

In T98676#1274402, @MZMcBride wrote:

@AddisWang: Can you please expand on why a separate wiki is wanted/needed here? Is Meta-Wiki insufficient?

In T98676#1274501, @Slaporte wrote:

I'll check the policy and get back to you here.

In T98676#1277972, @Dereckson wrote:

Is account creation by approval only, or by anybody clicking on "create an account"? : by approval

Could you also offer a rationale to use fishbowl instead of being open and offering auth linked to SUL?