I just realized after writing this, that the problem was "RandomRootpage". I should've used "Randompage" instead.

cc @Joseagush

In T415237#11661689, @EMill-WMF wrote:

Deleting these notes is not not primarily a technical issue, but rather a social or ethical issue. Can I request that someone from the Wikimedia Foundation who feels empowered to speak on social and ethical issues in community governance please identify themselves, make themselves a point of contact for social questions, and make a statement on deleting this content?

I gave some basic perspective on the security and safety implications of hosting years of essentially non-auditable anonymously contributed content in my comment above: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237#11621428

It is clear, both from your comment as well as others on this thread, that even though WMF has notionally presented this service as potentially ephemeral, our lack of enforcing that over many years has led people to assume it can be used indefinitely anyway. While I don't know of specific cases, from what you're saying you've heard, I would not be surprised to learn that WMF staff may have also slipped into assuming this, and made recommendations consistent with that, over the years.

We very likely should have been enforcing ephemerality more clearly from the beginning, to avoid getting into this situation. But we, like I think a lot of open internet organizations over the last 10-15 years, have gotten more sensitive to these kind of online safety risks over time, and we do now need to start enforcing it.

Fear of undiscovered and unspecified (and unlikely) Bad Text is not a good reason to prevent archiving, as that is a challenge archivists of the open web deal with every day. 🌺

I deeply admire the internet's public interest archivists and they do amazing work. But I disagree that the chances of Bad Text are unlikely. We dealt with an urgent distressed-user-initiated request for the removal of PII just a few months ago. As these things go, that was a pretty simple situation. As @Audiodude mentioned in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237#11628351, people use anonymous online scratch space for all kinds of things, and it doesn't take a very high % of the text to be Bad for it to be bad.

In T415237#11682438, @Tkarcher wrote:

Ok, so I backed up all lists added by @Pppery yesterday, and just to be on the safe side, ran the "find links within pads" script again on the recently added pads. Another 125 popped up. 🙄 Working on those now.

Hi, please update the logo of this project:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-logo-v2-btm-latn.svg

Hi Thanks for starting this request. Do you only need my confirmation? I believe we could safely removed it (artefact of FlaggedRevs):

• https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Validasi_artikel/Status_pengguna#Editor
• https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permohonan_pendapat/Pencabutan_validasi_artikel_(proposal_2020)
• https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permohonan_pendapat/Penerapan_perubahan_tertunda_dan_pengguna_terkonfirmasi_lanjutan (2017)
• https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268317

In T413774#11520654, @STran wrote:

@Bennylin Could I get the URL from you? It's meant to be on any talk page, which is defined by default in the extension config:

		"ReportIncidentEnabledNamespaces": {
			"value": [
				1, // Talk
				3, // User talk
				5, // Project talk
				7, // File talk
				9, // MediaWiki talk
				11, // Template talk
				13, // Help talk
				15 // Category talk
			],
			"description": "Determines what namespaces the Incident Reporting tool will render within. The default is 3 which defaults to the NS_USER_TALK namespace"
		},

(However, the description appears to be out of date)

It's random page: https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istimewa:Halaman_sembarang, although, now I'm gonna test it with different account, because my main account had tons of user script.

Cross-posting from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Product_Safety_and_Integrity/Incident_Reporting_System#Reporting_on_chat_or_article?

(you don't need to use the example index, I believe any index in any Wikisource will do)

Hello, this has been going on for more than a month. It has never been this long to import data. The community has stopped their activity for more almost two month waiting for this. I was contacted by the community asking if it will be done soon, because they have scheduled a workshop in October.

PS: I just remembered last month I helped bjn.wiktionary with the same request. So this problem is at least one month old.

In T404941#11192992, @A_smart_kitten wrote:

As far as I can see, I can reproduce this when I’m logged-out, but not when I’m logged-in. @Bennylin, please can you double-check whether you’re logged-out or logged-in to a given wiki when this happens to you on mobile, and whether or not you’re logged in when this doesn’t happen to you (e.g. on your desktop)?

I did some more tests on different websites (I visited via mobile, did a refresh once):

Awesome guys

Thanks. I've also submitted T391134. Feel free to close either one.

OK. Thanks for the explanation.

In T176196#10527857, @Candalua wrote:

In T176196#10527006, @Bennylin wrote:

They should support it then, or remove the "move" button on Index namespace.

Actually it makes sense to have the Move button: the Index must have the same name as the underlying file, and if the file is moved (because of typos in the name, or any other reasons) then the Index must also be moved. And it still makes some sense to keep a redirect, in case some page was pointing to the old name (although I prefer to just delete the redirect and fix the links).

Then if you really need to edit that redirect, you just have to change the content model to "wikitext".

So I believe that we should just fix the error message here, to reflect the fact that the content model is wrong and you need to change it before you try to edit the page.

They should support it then, or remove the "move" button on Index namespace.

in id.ws

1. https://id.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indeks:Boekoe_Tjerita_Graaf_de_Monte_Christo_-_10&action=edit
2. https://id.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indeks:Bibliography_Record.pdf&action=edit
3. https://id.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indeks:Berbagi-bagi_katerangan_tentang_sembahjangan_Tionghoa_dan_toedjoeannja_Bagian_1&action=edit
4. https://id.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indeks:Antalogi_Puisi_dan_Quotes_Bijak_Lukisan_Pasir&action=edit
5. https://id.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indeks:ADh_0083_A._Damhoeri_-_Sesudah_Minangkabau_Berbenteng_Adat.pdf&action=edit
6. https://id.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indeks:Anak_prampoean_dibikin_sebagi_parit_mas_atawa_Iboe_jang_doerhaka_(Q127162849)&action=edit

In jv.ws

1. https://jv.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indh%C3%A8ks:Handleiding_bij_de_beoefening_der_Javaansche_Taal_en_Letterkunde.pdf&action=edit
2. https://jv.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indh%C3%A8ks:Kawruh_Kalapa_Oleh_Ki_Padma_Susastra.pdf&action=edit
3. https://jv.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indh%C3%A8ks:Verhandelingen_van_het_Bataviaasch_Genotschap_van_Kunsten_en_Wetenschappen,_XLIX.pdf&action=edit
4. https://jv.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indh%C3%A8ks:Gusti_Y%C3%A9sus_nyelametak%C3%A9_kow%C3%A9.pdf&action=edit
5. https://jv.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Indhèks:Bab_Ndedonga.pdf&action=edit

Hi, it's been two weeks, please confirm this task, thanks.

The community has voted and agreed. https://mad.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikip%C3%A8%E1%B8%8Dia:B%C3%A2rung_Kopi&oldid=36771#Menambahkan_nama_ruang_nama_dalam_bahasa_Indonesia

I'll keep this open for now, and wait until they gathered consensus and post the result here. Thanks.

In T382087#10402497, @Anoop wrote:

You may request to add Indonesian namespace names as alias for Madurese

Interesting. Thank you for the quick response.

Then localized namespace is already defined in the request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Indonesian. I believe it's just waiting for the checklist to be dealt with, just like the site logo and wordmark.

Hi, does redirecting interwiki link [[wikivoyage:]] from any Indonesian projects to id.wikivoyage.org (instead of en.wikivoyage.org) is in the scope of this task?

Please prioritize this, because otherwise the community couldn't continue contributing to the site. We need the transliteration input method. Thanks.

Don't forget to change the logo. (As of now still the default English logo). Thanks.

I'm used to monobook skin, and in every page, there's always the gear button on the sidebar (image, bottom left)

In T228779#6249253, @dmehus wrote:

... managing unnecessarily created short URLs.

I think the default filename should be {{PAGENAMEE}}.svg
Alternative:

• {{FULLPAGENAMEE}}.svg
• {{FULLPAGENAMEE}}-{{SITENAME}}.svg
• {{FULLPAGENAMEE}}-{{SITENAME}}-{{CONTENTLANGUAGE}}.svg
• {{FULLPAGENAMEE}}-{{REVISIONID}}.svg
• {{FULLPAGENAMEE}}-{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}.svg

or other combinations

duplicate T345142

Hi, I can confirm this bug as well

Thanks a lot @Nahid!

Isn't it unified central login? My Wikimedia account on all Wikimedia sites.

If no one replies within a week, feel free to fix this annoying bug.

Hi, could the newly created Sundanese Wikisource's wordmark get updated? Right now it still says "Wikisource" (English)

200 is okay, but surely 20 is too short. Who decided to shorten it to 20?

If possible, please enable multiple campaign manager, so that I can create the campaign, and then handover to my coworker.
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T325805

In T344107#9088357, @Anthere wrote:

And in doing so... I realized that there is a « tight » limitation in terms of number of characters allowed for the name of the campaign. It used to be much longer. The number of characters allowed now is too short.

My coworker got the same result when creating a new campaign. Meanwhile I'm using my own account, and I can create a new campaign (I'm teaching her how to create a new campaign).

Hmm.. is it possible to use the technology from ws-export.wmcloud.org that are able to compile the contributors (down to the contributors of templates and images that are being used). The alternative is to provide a link to the history page, as an acknowledgement. If it can provide a link "Retrieved from ...so-and-so...", then it shouldn't be hard to add "Click here to see all the contributors of this page"

After what you've explained, I don't think it is needed. Thanks!

In T341173#9061627, @taavi wrote:

There are a couple of pages which had a namespace conflict that needs to be manually resolved: https://id.wikisource.org/wiki/Istimewa:Daftar_halaman?from=BROKEN&to=&namespace=4

In T341173#9007990, @Superpes15 wrote:

Hi @Bennylin I only see the discussion about the name change in your link! Could you please open a new thread? Thanks!

In T341175#9007995, @Superpes15 wrote:

Hi @Bennylin I only see the discussion about the name change in your link! Could you please open a new thread? Thanks!

There is a checklist for a reason, and if the checklist is not followed, then it's pointless to have the checklist in the first place. If the person who did the ticket messed up and didn't change the logo, you should make the followup ticket, not the community.

It's in the description of the ticket, why didn't it get done here?

Could you change the logo to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiktionary-logo-btm.svg as per description?

Thanks Amir.

I am in contact with the Batak Toba contributors, particularly Surung Simanullang, and he's practically the only person who at this point still uses Batak script (whose font has several flaws, and we're currently trying to fix that and my Batak Toba transliterator). He did that not for artistic nor symbolic, but indeed to revive the script among younger generations (he made a few youtube videos detailing how to use the ULS, for example)

Yes, this is correct. I made the note on the project proposal that translatewiki disabled translation to 'bbc' https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate?language=bbc&group=core-0-mostused for unknown reason. It is weird and it didn't link to any prior discussion why translatewiki decided to use bbc-latn instead. I agree wholeheartedly that it should be changed from bbc-latn to bbc.

In T341177#9011582, @Superpes15 wrote:

Done!

It has been resized. Thank you. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiktionary-wordmark-id.svg

Thanks. The change happened after I submitted my ticket (between 7-12 July). It was still Wikibooks when I created the ticket.

For now I will direct it to https://github.com/bennylin/tool-lexeme-forms

Hi, almost all projects from Indonesia now has their wordmarks:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_movement_in_Indonesia_wordmarks

Done. Now please fulfill this request. https://id.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiquote:Warung_Kopi&oldid=35969#Pengajuan_perubahan_ruang_nama