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Yesterday

C933103 added a comment to T165585: Make creating a new Language project easier.

@Liuxinyu970226 Not sure why are you asking me this here when you yourself have stated that this seems to be an inappropriate place. Anyway I think it depends on projects and communities of each projects might also have different opinions

Sat, Nov 17, 2:01 PM · Language-strategy, MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaIncubator, I18n, Release-Engineering-Team, Epic

Wed, Nov 14

C933103 added a comment to T7309: Localize captcha images.

There are already some websites that sue Chinese-based captcha around, however it is a really really bad idea to me personally. As someone who can read and write Chinese and is also a native language user of one of the Chinese languages, it's very complicated for me to type Chinese text into computer dependent on environment and the input method available. Worse case scenario I would have to use Google Translate or Google Search to find out those matching characters over the internet and then copy them over in order to finish a localized captcha challenges. Please DO NOT implement such troublesome thing.

Wed, Nov 14, 2:42 PM · Patch-For-Review, I18n, ConfirmEdit (CAPTCHA extension)

Sun, Nov 11

Liuxinyu970226 awarded T205778: Ability to select different editors. a Like token.
Sun, Nov 11, 12:09 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, VisualEditor, Mobile-Web-Settings, MobileFrontend

Mon, Nov 5

Jdlrobson awarded T205778: Ability to select different editors. a Like token.
Mon, Nov 5, 4:47 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, VisualEditor, Mobile-Web-Settings, MobileFrontend

Thu, Nov 1

C933103 created T208530: Map projection for polar area.
Thu, Nov 1, 6:08 PM · Maps

Oct 4 2018

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

Just a little tip, on firefox, go to about:config, then search for the browser.urlbar.decodeURLsOnCopy option and change it from false to true, this is essential for non pure-english characters (aka any accent or other char from any other language using latin script or any other script, so the url) :

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%92%99%E5%8F%A4%E8%AA%9E%E6%96%B9%E8%A8%80%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8

Thas is unreadable (will be the same with mongolian name in both cyrillic/mongolian script) will become

https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/蒙古語方言列表

shorter and readable (at least if you know the script).

Oct 4 2018, 10:55 AM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

@Popolon I believe Monguor and all that do not/no longer use Mongolian Script in writing so that's not really relevant to the context.

Oct 4 2018, 10:48 AM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Oct 2 2018

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

@Popolon According to my understanding assuming they are correct understanding, using Arabic as analogy, what you propose would be like making different monolingual value for "Libyan Modern Standard Arabic", "Egyptian Modern Standard Arabic", "Tunisian Modern Standard Arabic". Yes, Libyan/Egyptian/Tunisian Arabic are all different and could be considered as different languages, however there are only one single literary standard here. Surely, there are different phonetic literary standard that more closely reflect individual languages, like the Cyrillic alphabet being used to spell different Mongolic languages, which would warrant the establishment of wiki in each of their individual languages, however there are only one Classical Mongolian Script just like there are only one Modern Standard Arabic. You can say mvf is closest to Classical Mongolian in the same way as Egyptian Arabic being closest to the standard of Modern Standard Arabic, however they are not equal.

Oct 2 2018, 7:01 PM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Sep 29 2018

C933103 created T205778: Ability to select different editors..
Sep 29 2018, 12:53 PM · VisualEditor-MediaWiki-Mobile, VisualEditor, Mobile-Web-Settings, MobileFrontend
C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

Sorry for late reply,
@Liuxinyu970226 If the concern of ISO639's RA is "users of the codes understand that part 2 of the standard has a code that includes several coded languages in part 3.", then probably what can be done is ask for cancellation of the mvf code and khk code in the ISO639-3?

Sep 29 2018, 12:33 PM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Sep 20 2018

C933103 added a comment to T192018: Make it possible to edit the lead (section 0) when Javascript is disabled (mobile view).

I think I am able to edit lead section on mobile mediawiki site without js enabled using the js-less editor, because I have just tried that on English Wikipedia and it seems like it is working?

Sep 20 2018, 2:44 AM · Readers-Web-Backlog (Design), MobileFrontend

Sep 19 2018

C933103 added a comment to T28396: Permit all lowercase (uncapitalized) usernames and user pages.

It's also an annoyance to me as well as my current user name is supposed to start with a small letter

Sep 19 2018, 7:40 PM · WorkType-NewFunctionality, MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown
C933103 added a comment to T14896: Spam Blacklist shouldn't be fooled by similar-looking Unicode characters.

https://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:互助客栈/技术&diff=51348491&oldid=51348410
All these characters can also be typed into Wikipedia as part of a url, bypassing blacklist, and then get accepted by browsers which would convert them into basic ascii alphanumeric characters, and then send users to the blacklisted webpage.

Sep 19 2018, 6:52 PM · Stewards-and-global-tools, SpamBlacklist

Aug 30 2018

C933103 added a comment to T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.

Actually my original ticket could be a little clearer...
Like clarifying that the "example" there was meant to mean there are articles in cdo/nan/hak wikipedia that are written in alternative script and thus there should be related monolingual code that would allow recording of those article names in wikidata language field.
Thus I would like to bump the request for monolingual language code cdo-hani and nan-hani.
And then for hak... Can someone verify that "Hakka (Traditional Han script)" and "Hakka (Simplified Han Script)" are proper way to describe how Hakka speakers would write their language in Han scripts?

Aug 30 2018, 8:28 AM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Aug 29 2018

C933103 added a comment to T165585: Make creating a new Language project easier.
  1. If a new site is to be created for each incubator site, how will WMF turn them into a full site once they become eligible? Last time I heard about it, such redesignation seems to be very cumbersome and that's also why wp/yue and wp/nan still haven't be moved to the desired domain name after almost a decade from their initial proposal. Will it also take a decade for any new projects to get a full site if the proposal is to be adopted?
  2. Is it going to lengthen the entire wiki creation process, and also requires more bureaucratic processes, as well as requiting more manpower to handle each and every applications? Now it is incubator→Full site, in the proposal it will be incubator→Experimental site→Full site.
  3. Are those goals unachievable by overhauling incubator itself? It seems like Wikia is now going to change the url of their non-English wiki in order to save the SSL certification cost by changing urls in format of zh.community.wikia.com to community.wikia.com/zh, and each of these different language edition sites are still independent. Is that not achievable in Incubator?
  4. Likewise, is it possible to create such new experimental site in a way as easy as creating a new wiki site on wikia?
Aug 29 2018, 3:29 AM · Language-strategy, MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaIncubator, I18n, Release-Engineering-Team, Epic

Aug 20 2018

C933103 added a comment to T145531: [feature request] allow calculated properties, derived properties.

The wikidata property proposal https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/coordinate_location_GCJ02 would depend on this property datatype.

Aug 20 2018, 6:18 PM · Wikidata-Query-Service, Discovery, Wikidata
C933103 added a comment to T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata.

If there's no way to fix the internationalized format now then please change the format into ISO date format as a temporary fix. There's currently no way for me to tell which day a date value actually represent without trying to edit it and see the calendar pop up.

Aug 20 2018, 6:15 PM · Patch-For-Review, I18n, Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository

May 6 2018

C933103 added a comment to T170836: zh-hk is not disabled but message files exist and were not updated in 2 or 3 years.

Is it possible to use language converter with specific conversion group on most messages and correct them only when language converter get it wrong?

May 6 2018, 3:26 AM · Patch-For-Review, translatewiki.net, MediaWiki-Internationalization, Chinese-Sites, I18n

Feb 24 2018

C933103 created T188185: Update labelling of zh-hant and zh-hans to "繁體中文" (Traditional Chinese) and "简体中文" (Simplified Chinese).
Feb 24 2018, 8:34 PM · Patch-For-Review, Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog (Android-app-release-v2.7.24x-I-Ice-lolly), Android-app-feature-Multilingual, Chinese-Sites

Dec 11 2017

C933103 added a comment to T122942: RFC: Support language variants in the REST API.

If I understand correctly, while this api should be internal to applications and not used by user, however it'd be used by things like mobile clients, visual editor, content scrapper, and such to obtain information for user's viewing which might still subject to some of the limitations I mentioned above?

Dec 11 2017, 9:44 PM · Reading-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, User-mobrovac, Chinese-Sites, Services (next), I18n, Proposal, Mobile-Content-Service, Parsing-Team, TechCom-RFC, RESTBase, Blocked-on-Parsoid, Parsoid
C933103 added a comment to T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.

Remove Japanese Kyujitai request as might be using variant subtag instead of script subtag could be a better idea? Although there are also problems in using variant subtag

Dec 11 2017, 3:05 AM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 renamed T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant from Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant, ja-hant to Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.
Dec 11 2017, 3:03 AM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Dec 10 2017

C933103 added a comment to T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.

Remove Nushu as use case related to the language and script can be covered by using monolingual code mis due to the lack of language code for Tuhua

Dec 10 2017, 8:50 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 renamed T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant from Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant, zh-nshu, ja-hant to Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant, ja-hant.
Dec 10 2017, 8:49 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Dec 9 2017

C933103 added a comment to T172035: Blockers for Wikimedia wiki domain renaming.

As mentioned by others, it've been almost a decade since the issue was raised

Those "raising" actions are illegal, please see Bug management/Phabricator etiquette, especially:
Report status and priority fields summarize and reflect reality and do not cause it. Read about the meaning of the Priority field values and, when in doubt, do not change them, but add a comment suggesting the change and convincing reasons for it.

Sorry, a better term would be, "since the issue was submitted".

Dec 9 2017, 5:02 PM · Language-strategy, Wikimedia-Site-requests
C933103 added a comment to T172035: Blockers for Wikimedia wiki domain renaming.

Is it possible to do the renaming task for those wikis as of current status first and then deal with whatever bugs that would appear after the renaming is to be done? As mentioned by others, it've been almost a decade since the issue was <del>raised</del>submitted, and there will be more and more legacy issue need to deal with the longer it drags on (CX didn't even exists back in the day). Things like CX would be broken but those seem to be less important.

Dec 9 2017, 12:59 PM · Language-strategy, Wikimedia-Site-requests
C933103 added a comment to T122942: RFC: Support language variants in the REST API.

Accept-language header seems to be a bad idea for situation when the language or variant is not usually selectable in browser or terminal setting (Like you can't pick anything yue in chrome language setting page. Not in Microsoft Windows setting either which IE seems to read from there. Not on smartphone setting which mobile browser and app read from either.) So there are no way for user to configure these client softwares to send accept language header in language/variant that they would like to use to the server.
[Note: This is relevant as there are request to implement Hans-Hant conversion for yue.wp too]
[Note 2: It can be a way to detect what variant the user initially want, but probably not a good way to fixate the variant selection based on this]

Dec 9 2017, 12:20 PM · Reading-Infrastructure-Team-Backlog, User-mobrovac, Chinese-Sites, Services (next), I18n, Proposal, Mobile-Content-Service, Parsing-Team, TechCom-RFC, RESTBase, Blocked-on-Parsoid, Parsoid
C933103 added a comment to T182482: Korean Hanja to Hangul unidirectional conversion tool on Korean wikisource?.
  1. The linked discussion was about Hanmun = Classical Chinese documents, not documents written in Hanja-Hangul mixed script.
  2. The task is closed as it seems like it is not a good way to word this request this way for now. Will probably make a post on the community discussion page when I word it in a better way.
Dec 9 2017, 9:31 AM · MediaWiki-Language-converter, I18n
C933103 closed T182482: Korean Hanja to Hangul unidirectional conversion tool on Korean wikisource? as Invalid.
Dec 9 2017, 3:52 AM · MediaWiki-Language-converter, I18n
C933103 created T182482: Korean Hanja to Hangul unidirectional conversion tool on Korean wikisource?.
Dec 9 2017, 3:48 AM · MediaWiki-Language-converter, I18n
C933103 updated the task description for T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.
Dec 9 2017, 12:20 AM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 updated the task description for T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.
Dec 9 2017, 12:17 AM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Dec 5 2017

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

What is the rationale of macrolanguage being not usable to identify text?

If you could make a language conversion system between two writting system, Okay, otherwise my aganist to mn-Mong is still valid.

Dec 5 2017, 10:43 PM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Dec 2 2017

C933103 updated subscribers of T353: RFC: Vertical writing support.
Dec 2 2017, 2:17 PM · MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, Language-Team, TechCom-RFC

Nov 27 2017

C933103 added a comment to T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.

hum edited task description accordingly

Nov 27 2017, 5:43 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 renamed T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant from Add monolingual language code nan-hant-tw, nan-hans-cn, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant, zh-nshu, ja-hant to Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant, zh-nshu, ja-hant.
Nov 27 2017, 5:41 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Nov 26 2017

C933103 added a comment to T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.

Almost all the Hani text being discussed and used related to the nan.wp project now are Hant. Disregarding Hans for now and use Hani instead of Hant would probably do the job in the current setting but what about when mainland China Hans users start visiting and editing the site?

Nov 26 2017, 8:32 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Nov 25 2017

C933103 added a comment to T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.

Why requesting separated BCP47 codes for Min nan? Why don't we just split the TWN Min nan translations instead (so we can also make Min nan labels separated).

Nov 25 2017, 5:32 AM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Nov 23 2017

C933103 added a comment to T181209: Content Translation: the Youdao Machine Translation does not work..

It's now working on my end.

Nov 23 2017, 6:03 PM · Wikimedia User Group China, Chinese-Sites, Language-2017-Oct-Dec, ContentTranslation
C933103 added a comment to T54957: Creation of tl-informal as a new interface language.

Because language converter would need to cater to exceptions, the better way to do this is probably just open up a language and then only translate those that are different and then let the other terms fallback to Tagalog just like how zh_HK<>zh-Hant have been handled.

Nov 23 2017, 5:56 PM · MediaWiki-Internationalization
C933103 renamed T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant from Add monolingual language code nan-hant-tw, nan-hans-cn, cdo-hans, cdo-hant, hak-hans, hak-hant, zh-nshu, ja-hant to Add monolingual language code nan-hant-tw, nan-hans-cn, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant, zh-nshu, ja-hant.
Nov 23 2017, 5:46 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 added a comment to T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.

See also https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/Request_for_enabling_new_variants_for_Hakka_language_(2) , T57876 , and T139010

Nov 23 2017, 5:40 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 renamed T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant from Add monolingual language code nan-hant-tw, nan-hans-cn, cdo-hans-cn, cdo-hant-tw, hak-hans-cn, hak-hant-tw, zh-nshu, ja-hant to Add monolingual language code nan-hant-tw, nan-hans-cn, cdo-hans, cdo-hant, hak-hans, hak-hant, zh-nshu, ja-hant.
Nov 23 2017, 5:40 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 updated the task description for T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.
Nov 23 2017, 5:39 PM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 added a comment to T33015: Convert between English language variants in display of pages.

Existing syntax for special conversion rule have been documented at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_systems/Syntax . Some of the concern could have been addressed in the link and there are also no need to reinvent new syntax instead of using a syntax that have already established.

Nov 23 2017, 5:28 PM · JavaScript, I18n, MediaWiki-Language-converter
C933103 added a comment to T17161: A generalized language conversion engine.

ToC:

  1. British<>American English, Portuguese variants conversion
  2. Different options to enable/disable the system in various way, with additional user settings that allow custom rules and different separated set of rules
  3. Some words on language converter in editing mode
  4. Javascript conversion tool
  5. sentence-based conversion tool
  6. Classical Chinese Kanbun conversion
  7. Mutliple parallel conversion
Nov 23 2017, 4:33 PM · Proposal, Chinese-Sites, MediaWiki-Language-converter
C933103 added a project to T181150: In Content Translation, language converter settings for the source language are not respected: MediaWiki-Language-converter.

Instead of "always Simplified Chinese", a more proper description would be "always the language variant in the article source". The conversion between Simplified and Traditional Chinese variant on Chinese Wikipedia module is achieved by Language Converter. The language converter does not work in source editing mode and does not work in Content Translation either.

Nov 23 2017, 2:52 PM · Chinese-Sites, MediaWiki-Language-converter, ContentTranslation
C933103 created T181209: Content Translation: the Youdao Machine Translation does not work..
Nov 23 2017, 7:42 AM · Wikimedia User Group China, Chinese-Sites, Language-2017-Oct-Dec, ContentTranslation

Nov 17 2017

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

What is the rationale of macrolanguage being not usable to identify text?

Nov 17 2017, 9:59 PM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 added a comment to T144272: new monolingual language code requests for Wikidata (tracking).

Are you implying that those monolingual language code I'm submitting does not represent anything useful? nan/cdo/hak-Hant/hans are language-script combinations being used to write wikipedia articles, and vi-hani, ko-kore, ja-Kyujitai are used to name people and things in respective countries. How do you write the name of "Ho Chi Minh City" in Vietnamese Han nom? The only place providing this info in wikidata for now is in the Japanese alias for the entry name. How about "Kim Jong-Il" in ko-Kore? Look at the Slovak alias. Is it better than having labels for each of these script variants?

Nov 17 2017, 9:25 PM · MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Tracking, Wikidata
C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

Then mon, mon is ISO 639-3

Nov 17 2017, 8:51 PM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata
C933103 created T180771: Add monolingual language code nan-hani, cdo-hani, hak-hans, hak-hant.
Nov 17 2017, 4:46 AM · goodfirstbug, Need-volunteer, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Nov 13 2017

C933103 renamed T180345: Add monolingual language code vi-hani, ko-kore from Add monolingual language code vi-hani, ko-hani to Add monolingual language code vi-hani, ko-kore.
Nov 13 2017, 3:23 PM · Wikidata
C933103 created T180345: Add monolingual language code vi-hani, ko-kore.
Nov 13 2017, 2:59 PM · Wikidata

Nov 12 2017

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

mvf only refer to Mongolian spoken in Central part of Inner Mongolia while mn-Mong is written by all mn users.

Nov 12 2017, 12:20 AM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Apr 7 2017

C933103 added a comment to T162331: Provide tools for processing obfuscated Chinese geodata (GCJ-02, BD-09).

According to some pages I have read from google, it seems like in the US only the compilation of data is protected while data itself are not and the creation of databasr also need to have some creativity in order to make the database fulfil copyright law, and in the EU there is an extra protection of investment being put to collect, arrange and present data. So it seems like it should not have problem under the US law in most cases although it might be better to let a legal expert to answer the question ..

Apr 7 2017, 1:39 AM · Discovery-Search, Maps, Wikidata, Chinese-Sites, GeoData

Mar 2 2017

C933103 added a comment to T54971: [Goal] Sitelinks and arbitrary accesses to Incubator, OldWikisource and BetaWikiversity.

Is it within the scope of this task that ordinary wikipedia with multiple page for every single concept written in multiple script cannot be linked to same wikidata concept entry?

Mar 2 2017, 10:56 PM · Goal, Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016, Wikidata, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository

Dec 21 2016

C933103 added a project to T11436: Vertical writing support in MediaWiki: Chinese-Sites.

adding the tag because there're intention to make lzh wikipedia text run vertically

Dec 21 2016, 7:30 PM · MediaWiki-Page-editing, Epic, Upstream, MediaWiki-Internationalization

Oct 8 2016

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.
Oct 8 2016, 2:40 PM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Oct 5 2016

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

@GerardM but traditional mongolian script is like literary chinese, which is universal to every languages that were using it as their written form and thus it is invalid to say which language they belong to. Just like you can say Nihon Shoki is written in Chinese but you can't say it is written with Mandarin or Hakka. The situation with traditional Mongolian script is the same. And also, it would be incorrect [despite being a convention] to call those Mongolian text middle/classical Mongolian language just like you can't equate literary chinese to old/middle chinese, as there are still some changes being made to the written language that set the old language at that time apart from the written form continually being used.

Oct 5 2016, 8:12 AM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Oct 4 2016

C933103 added a comment to T137810: [Task] Add monolingual language code mn-Mong.

@GerardM
0. According to the "Requirements for a new language code" linked above, the WIP requirement for a new language code is a valid IETF tag not a valid ISO code

  1. Macrolanguages in ISO 639-3 are still individual languages in ISO 639-2, and definition of macrolanguage in ISO 639-3 is "clusters of closely-related language varieties that [...] can be considered distinct individual languages, yet in certain usage contexts a single language identity for all is needed". and thus macrolanguages should be treated as an lanuage with valid language code. And mn is a valid code and is currently used by Mongolian wikipedia, which also contain several articles written in traditional Mongolian script.
  2. See BCP 47 section 2.1.1 for details about uppercasing. https://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp47
  3. both khk, mvf, bua and xal can be written with Latn, Cyrl and Mong.
  4. mn-Mong is not only used for mvf.
  5. BCP 47 also stated that macrolanguage code can still be used instead of code for encompassed languge
  6. you can see mn_Mong_CN is a likely subtag in http://unicode.org/repos/cldr-tmp/trunk/diff/supplemental/likely_subtags.html
  7. You can see mn-Mong listed in IANA language subtag registry http://www.iana.org/assignments/language-subtag-registry/language-subtag-registry (listed as redundant as it have the correct form and format defined by RFC4646 and all the subtag it used are defined in the document. See RFC4645 for detail.)
Oct 4 2016, 11:24 AM · Wikidata-Sprint-2016-09-21, MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseRepository, Wikidata

Jul 8 2016

C933103 added a comment to T22825: Change default font for EasyTimeline on zh projects to something that actually has glyphs for Chinese characters.

@Roytam1 There are no such thing known as unified font in the world at least as of now, and they are not supposed to be unified. Alternative to region based font would be a font that are designed according to a particular regional standard or according to font developer's habit. See Unicode's FAQ about CJK for further detail. I am not familiar with server environment nor the software's setting, but in home environment when an application use a multiregion font without specifing a region, the result is often default to China's standard.

Jul 8 2016, 5:15 PM · Chinese-Sites, EasyTimeline, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-production-error, I18n, Wikimedia-Site-requests

May 25 2016

C933103 added a comment to T135366: Create a list of extra common languages for ULS.

From what I was told, many articles on Cebuano Wikipedia as well as some other Wikipedia with very high article-per-speaker ratio used bots to create articles from database, for instance [just for example] those bots could create a million article for 1st to 1 millionth asteroid automatically just by copying from database according to a user defined format. See https://ceb.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Espesyal%3AMga+Tampo&contribs=user&target=Lsjbot&namespace=&tagfilter=&newOnly=1&year=2016&month=-1 for example. I don't think this should be taken into consideration about what language would be useful to visitors.

May 25 2016, 10:59 PM · MW-1.28-release (WMF-deploy-2016-06-07_(1.28.0-wmf.5)), Language-Q4-2016-Sprint 3, Language-Engineering April-June 2016, UniversalLanguageSelector, ULS-CompactLinks

Mar 26 2016

C933103 added a subtask for T129826: [Tracker] Missing languages in Compact Language Links: T131005: Link to zh-yue does not appear in ULS Compact Links.
Mar 26 2016, 7:25 PM · Language-Q4-2016-Sprint 1, Language-Engineering April-June 2016, Tracking, UniversalLanguageSelector, ULS-CompactLinks
C933103 added a parent task for T131005: Link to zh-yue does not appear in ULS Compact Links: T129826: [Tracker] Missing languages in Compact Language Links.
Mar 26 2016, 7:25 PM · Language-Q4-2016-Sprint 1, Language-Engineering April-June 2016, UniversalLanguageSelector, ULS-CompactLinks
C933103 created T131005: Link to zh-yue does not appear in ULS Compact Links.
Mar 26 2016, 7:24 PM · Language-Q4-2016-Sprint 1, Language-Engineering April-June 2016, UniversalLanguageSelector, ULS-CompactLinks

Mar 14 2016

C933103 added a comment to T11436: Vertical writing support in MediaWiki.

Is T353 a subtask or a duplicate of this task?

Mar 14 2016, 9:52 AM · MediaWiki-Page-editing, Epic, Upstream, MediaWiki-Internationalization
Restricted Application updated subscribers of T353: RFC: Vertical writing support.
Mar 14 2016, 9:49 AM · MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, Language-Team, TechCom-RFC

Mar 2 2016

C933103 added a comment to T128595: WP Mobile app can't read [[:en:XXX]] links.

ah the official wikipedia android app 2.1.141-r-2016-02-10 as well as 2.0-r-2015-04-23

Mar 2 2016, 4:41 PM · Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog
C933103 created T128595: WP Mobile app can't read [[:en:XXX]] links.
Mar 2 2016, 3:32 PM · Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog

Feb 23 2016

C933103 added a comment to T11436: Vertical writing support in MediaWiki.

CSS3 Vertical writing mode is now supported by 90%+ browsers around the world and supported by basically all non-opera-mini browser as per http://caniuse.com/#feat=css-writing-mode , also note that due to the limited support provided by mediawiki on vertical script, there're already some ppl created their own non-wikimedia mediawiki site by using their own hack/method.

Feb 23 2016, 9:24 AM · MediaWiki-Page-editing, Epic, Upstream, MediaWiki-Internationalization
C933103 raised the priority of T11436: Vertical writing support in MediaWiki from Lowest to Normal.
Feb 23 2016, 9:16 AM · MediaWiki-Page-editing, Epic, Upstream, MediaWiki-Internationalization

Aug 6 2015

C933103 added a comment to T59106: Implement LanguageConverter for yue (Cantonese).

If I understand correctly, yue wikipedia is currently using javascript to provide transliteration into hans (simp. chinese)? shouldn't that be done by language converter too?

This is just requesting such action

Aug 6 2015, 11:45 AM · Patch-For-Review, I18n, MediaWiki-Language-converter
Restricted Application updated subscribers of T59106: Implement LanguageConverter for yue (Cantonese).
Aug 6 2015, 2:05 AM · Patch-For-Review, I18n, MediaWiki-Language-converter

Jul 17 2015

C933103 added a comment to T687: Convert Bugzilla's "Bug NNNNN" links to "TNNNNN" links in Phabricator.

bz9123000 should be part of the list too.

Jul 17 2015, 2:35 AM · Developer-Wishlist (2017), Patch-For-Review, Phabricator

Jul 15 2015

C933103 added a comment to T15: Migrate Bugzilla to Phabricator.

I have just read some notations like bz19986, bug #19986 or bug 19986 in some older issues that are referring to issue number in bugzilla, is it possible for phabricator to automatically redirect all these to their issue # in phabricator, lile T21986 in this case?

Jul 15 2015, 10:56 PM · Wikimedia Phabricator RfC, Bugzilla-Migration
C933103 added a comment to T30441: Rename zh-yue -> yue.

See bug 19986 for the discussion on why it's so difficult. (Thanks Andre Klapper)

Jul 15 2015, 10:52 PM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup
C933103 updated the task description for T30441: Rename zh-yue -> yue.
Jul 15 2015, 10:52 PM · Wiki-Setup (Rename), Wikimedia-Language-setup

Jun 5 2015

C933103 added a comment to T22825: Change default font for EasyTimeline on zh projects to something that actually has glyphs for Chinese characters.

While the problem have not been resolved yet and EasyTimelines are still displaying witgiut text, I'd like to mention that according to http://wenq.org/wqy2/index.cgi?HanziStyles the wqy font is using China version's glyph. Once after the issue is fixed, should it also install another font that come with Taiwan version's glyph for users browsing the wikipedia in zh-tw/hk/mo, and is it technically viable ti display different font for people requesting different edition of the page? (Actually, should i file another bug for this?)

Jun 5 2015, 7:32 AM · Chinese-Sites, EasyTimeline, Patch-For-Review, Wikimedia-production-error, I18n, Wikimedia-Site-requests
C933103 added a comment to T84777: install font packages on all appservers, not just imagescalers (was: Install fonts-wqy-zenhei on all mediawiki app servers).

I don't think unifont should be use instead as according to http://wiki.debian.org.hk/w/Fonts it look like a wqy's font is an improved version over unifont in term of Chinese support.

Jun 5 2015, 7:16 AM · Operations, Patch-For-Review

Feb 14 2015

C933103 added a comment to T67047: API responses gives desktop site's links for "Read in another language", "notifications" and "MediaViewer" details link.

Some other links in wikipedia in general also act in this way, like links generated via Template:link on English Wikipedia.

Feb 14 2015, 4:57 AM · User-notice-collaboration, User-notice, Readers-Web-Backlog (Tracking), MobileFrontend

Feb 11 2015

C933103 created T89267: Mobile wikipedia interwiki link to non-mobile page.
Feb 11 2015, 6:02 PM · Readers-Web-Backlog