That sounds like a good solution. Basically, the rendered version could be just displayed in edit mode as it is in view mode (so no direct manipulation is possible). But the contributor can use the caret to open it and then edit the parts as desired. And then close it again to see the updated display rendered. But since there is no parser, the rendered version can not be edited directly and parsed back into the structured representation.

@DMartin-WMF -- is that now resolved?

That was a copy and paste error on my side. I understood the error and fixed the implementation. Now everything works as expected.

Wow! I didn't expect anything near to this, this is amazing! It creates all the hundreds of forms, in less than a second, without any issues!

Here is the function call that produces the not fully evaluated object:

Z38676 (bind value by position) is implemented by Z38679 which uses Z38598 (bind value by id) which is implemented by Z38630 which uses Z38619 (substitue s-expression) which is implemented by Z38629 which uses Z38625 (is argument reference) which is implemented by Z38628 which uses Z19352 (object has this type) which is implemented by Z31193 which uses Z22764 (string from type)

The problems seem to start even sooner: this is just binding a value to the second position of subtraction. The "arguments" key remains unevalued, i.e. it says

In my head it was. :) My bad

Seems to work on Drucker now but still not on Windschutscheibe nor on https://hr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Trommel

Second example here: https://hr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Windschutzscheibe

Argh! Note that Z34148 passes, but Z33761 does not!

Might also be related to T423853 -- but notice that this one here seems to only appear in the test!

That seemed to have been a caching issue. I changed the implementation (added a description) to bust the cache, and that made them work.

So I wrote a SPARQL query to get all Bangla nouns that indeed have all the five forms. Turns out, it's only three of them: https://w.wiki/LJsC

Interestingly Z33244 works in this case:

OK, fixed that too. The JS float converter needed some more fixing as well:

• https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Z28867?uselang=en&diff=265896&oldid=265889

On https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/en/Z20849 the test https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/en/Z21466 still fails for Python.

Well, here's the change that made all the tests on https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/en/Z21939 pass again.

Huh, Weird. I wonder why the output changed then.

That fixed the failing JS test on https://www.wikifunctions.org/view/en/Z20849

Implemented the suggestions from https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/Talk:Z16684

There have been no changes to the converters in the last few months.

The example page that @Redmin meant was this here:

Yes, indeed. What is the suggestion? There is both a project and a specific wiki.

Thank you for this estimate and plan! Between that and Arthur's suggestions, I think it covers the work comprehensively.

This seems fixed.

I think that's correct, it should just be persistent throughout

Component does not support that kind of flow

This seems to work fine now. Thank you for reporting!

Actually, I am just closing it.

This seems to be fixed by now, and the issues reported are not reproducible anymore. Closing.

I think this seems resolved. Moving to triage to get it checked and closed.

I hope I am not messing up the debugging effort, but I created a code implementation ( Z28931 ) that works much faster than the previous implementation ( Z28604 ).

I think here's another example of that not working:

A few tasks which might interfere with the confidence in the system if we don't improve them: T405477, T405461, T404581

Discussed this with @DSmit-WMF , and it might be a good idea to have T404195 in mind when doing that, as there might be synergy.

Here's an example of a community member reporting this: https://cs.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wikislovn%C3%ADk%3APod_l%C3%ADpou&dtnewcommentssince=c-Mykhal-20251005143000-Mykhal-20251005142500&dtinthread=1#c-Mykhal-20251005144400-Sannita_(WMF)-20251005135500

Here are a few more pages that can be checked for this:

• https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/User:Denny/Year/es
• https://www.wikifunctions.org/wiki/User:Denny/Year/de
• https://hr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Haus
• https://hr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Jahr
• https://hr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Feder