@Mvolz I think we're technically done with the scope of this task? Thanks.

@Milimetric Thanks for filing this. While we're more than happy to help, we as a team have no idea who those users are nor can figure that out in any way different than, well, asking on generic fora, "are you a dump user". Will you give us data about them?

@Cparle Thanks for creating this. I think that this is about you flagging that you'll need a CRS for next fiscal, rather than requesting a specific action from them right now.

"As expected" would be that I get the list of my contributions. There's no other button for that.

@JTannerWMF To clarify, if "Telling the community" means telling non-apps users/our desktop contributors, then I think that's uncontroversial. But Bethany's database, IIUC, should have the capability to target app users, which we don't have. Her team can set up micro surveys to ask or tell people things, which we can't. So I think for the Apps teams in particular, as opposed to maybe others, there's probably more margins for CRS and Design Research to actually do things together.

This is absolutely great and TYSM for the above, truly helpful.

We're in a bit of an empasse currently as we're trying to maybe couple this to other pieces that are also candidates for sunsetting, but may ultimately decide not to do it if it delays us too much.

@LGoto @JTannerWMF It sounds to me that some of what you are usually looking for is more on the user research side of things than on the community engagement one.
Can I have more details about what your processes re: the former look like?
I am convinced that at least part of what you want to achieve is actually better channeled through https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Research/Design_Research#Support_for_WMF_teams .

@Mvolz @VPuffetMichel Please let us know if this should be resolved just by adding a note about it in Tech News.

In T324416#8855778, @Dzahn wrote:

What was the actual ping about though?

I think I just stumbled on this here, https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Woh7rhuiccr42fma&action=history, where I tried to ping @Dzahn manually (as opposed to using the @ mention feature) but I don't even know if the ping worked. Clicking on the red link leads to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:DZahn_(WMF)%3Faction%3Dedit%26redlink%3D1 .

@Quiddity ^

Per my Mass Message, we're "investigating several options". This is where we're at. As the situation keeps evolving, T336298 will have further details. So rest assured we're seeing your questions and suggestions and are grateful for the interest. Right now though, the folks who could be handling them are the same who are working hard on a solution: thanks for your patience and understanding while they focus on the latter.

@Tgr , anything that we need to communicate to the communities (via tech news or not) re: T336595 ? Thanks.

In T334940#8847074, @MilkyDefer wrote:

Can we have more details on the status quo? I see a restricted task added as a subtask, and if I read correctly, the graph extension is once again disabled on mediawiki.org.

Does that mean another serious security problem is discovered even with Vega 5, and we are back at the beginning?

I just sent the Mass message, please LMK if there's any problem with it. I'd like to publicly thank my many colleagues at WMF who are working hard to resolve this issue, and I ask for your patience and understanding on the matter. I'll make sure that this task is updated whenever we have anything worth sharing.

I hadn't noticed but this happened to me as well on April 19. I'm about to target 100+ wikis again, crossing fingers :(

@Mstyles ping!

I have for now posted at en.wp, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Automatic_citations_based_on_ISBN_are_broken .

@Seddon will someone announce this in Tech News, need any help with anything community-related...?

Ciao @Samwalton9 : any other needs re: this task, or are we done here? TY.

@Seddon I see something that looks like an action item for communities at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334940#8813922 (Vega2 to Vega5 something something).
I'm not sure how much visibility was given to that instruction, or how many communities are actively doing anything about it. Thoughts?

@MPaul_WMF please approve.

This ended up in a deprecated part of our Phab space, but we're already looking into it.

(@Quiddity noting my remark above that should affect the timeline. I hope I can provide a clearer green light in case this actually needs to be added to TN this week already.)

I'll talk to Maryum to understand what the framing of the message will be. I doubt that any comms can go out this week - we don't have a agreed-upon plan, it's the weekend and May 1st is a holiday in several countries. Looking forward to discussing with Maryum to figure out how to go about this all.

It should be that one.
FWIW we keep working on this, and the next step is discussing with the PO, who is Olga.

Tech VPs have just been MassMessaged.

I don't want to celebrate this task's second birthday later this year. Please prioritize completion.

Of course, approved.

Resubscribing so I won't forget to check what the current standards are.
Also FYI @VirginiaPoundstone and @daniel .

Thanks.

@Niharika Is this task still valid, or...? Can't figure out what to do with it. Thanks.

Sam and I talked and I recommended expanding the list of wikis he reached out to/individuals, at the intersection of "uses mobile" x "does patrolling".
I've also provided advice on a strategy where he seeks translations first and then he moves forward with contacting people.

Not seeing many on-wiki venues linking back to it, FWIW.

"Hey Erica, my fault is mine on the lack of a reply. My apologies for that. I've been swept up in Wikileads and APP.
Right now based on APP, I'm lowering the priority of model cards for next FY because it doesn't advance any KR. I think we will hand a full plate just delivering on what is in the APP. So I don't expect we will ask for support from community relations. But I will write up a (very belated, again my apologies) response to your points from Dec 22."

(Now also on Asana, triaging. Thanks for filing. Will likely set up time with you next week or something.)

I'll answer in our planning doc, thanks.

(Just a reminder to also put this on Asana whenever you have the min necessary details.)

Still waiting for people to LMK if and how we can help them.

We can reopen if/when necessary.

@Quiddity overall status here? Are we stuck with this kind of tasks on our board forever?

@UOzurumba Please do something about my comment.