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Today

Restricted Application assigned T161432: Deleted a citation to Cyberpower678.
Sun, Mar 26, 1:36 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T161431: Deleted opening markup of a wikicomment to Cyberpower678.
Sun, Mar 26, 1:04 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T161430: Mangled refs being more mangled to Cyberpower678.
Sun, Mar 26, 1:00 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T161429: webarchive refs being deleted to Cyberpower678.
Sun, Mar 26, 12:54 AM · InternetArchiveBot

Thu, Mar 23

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T161162: Pandora link broken.

I figured it has to do with being on the opposite side of the planet.

Thu, Mar 23, 12:30 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T161162: Pandora link broken.

It is indeed the worst.

Thu, Mar 23, 12:29 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T161162: Pandora link broken.

Removing the "S" breaks it.

Thu, Mar 23, 12:27 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom reopened T161162: Pandora link broken as "Open".
Thu, Mar 23, 12:26 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T161162: Pandora link broken.

That could be it looked like different sub-divisions of the Australian government.

Thu, Mar 23, 12:19 AM · InternetArchiveBot

Wed, Mar 22

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T161162: Pandora link broken.

The Australia links can't be sanitized. That could be true for others also. We know Wayback can be sanitized, but service each has its own requirements.

Wed, Mar 22, 10:19 PM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom edited the description of T161162: Pandora link broken.
Wed, Mar 22, 9:58 PM · InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T161162: Pandora link broken to Cyberpower678.
Wed, Mar 22, 9:54 PM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T160174: archivedate format .

Still happening March 22 v1.3beta2

Wed, Mar 22, 5:32 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom reopened T160174: archivedate format as "Open".
Wed, Mar 22, 5:32 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Sat, Mar 18

Restricted Application assigned T160826: Feature request: garbage checker to Cyberpower678.
Sat, Mar 18, 2:02 PM · InternetArchiveBot

Thu, Mar 16

Restricted Application assigned T160641: Refs deleted to Cyberpower678.
Thu, Mar 16, 3:25 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Wed, Mar 15

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T160564: Saving links that are not dead.

The problem is common. There's something wrong. Users can't be expected to deal manually with such a high percentage of false positives. Look through this page:

Wed, Mar 15, 9:34 PM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom reopened T160564: Saving links that are not dead as "Open".
Wed, Mar 15, 9:28 PM · InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T160564: Saving links that are not dead to Cyberpower678.
Wed, Mar 15, 7:18 PM · InternetArchiveBot

Fri, Mar 10

Green_Cardamom assigned T160175: Stanford University archive to Cyberpower678.
Fri, Mar 10, 8:52 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom assigned T159975: Icelandic Archives to Cyberpower678.
Fri, Mar 10, 8:52 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom assigned T159833: webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk to Cyberpower678.
Fri, Mar 10, 8:52 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom assigned T159832: Wrong archive-date to Cyberpower678.
Fri, Mar 10, 8:52 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom assigned T160174: archivedate format to Cyberpower678.
Fri, Mar 10, 8:49 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom created T160175: Stanford University archive.
Fri, Mar 10, 3:03 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom created T160174: archivedate format .
Fri, Mar 10, 2:56 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Wed, Mar 8

Green_Cardamom created T159975: Icelandic Archives.
Wed, Mar 8, 7:18 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Tue, Mar 7

Green_Cardamom edited the description of T159833: webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk.
Tue, Mar 7, 6:37 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T159833: webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk.
Tue, Mar 7, 4:00 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom created T159833: webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk.
Tue, Mar 7, 2:22 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom created T159832: Wrong archive-date.
Tue, Mar 7, 2:10 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Feb 23 2017

Restricted Application assigned T158887: Backslash in URL not ended correctly to Cyberpower678.
Feb 23 2017, 6:43 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Feb 14 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T158065: Archive.is incorrect encoding.

Another where XML wasn't decoded

Feb 14 2017, 5:35 PM · InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T158065: Archive.is incorrect encoding to Cyberpower678.
Feb 14 2017, 3:52 PM · InternetArchiveBot

Feb 9 2017

Restricted Application assigned T157696: Archive.is and urlencoding to Cyberpower678.
Feb 9 2017, 4:33 PM · InternetArchiveBot

Jan 31 2017

Restricted Application assigned T156809: Wikicomment in cite causes wrong parsing to Cyberpower678.
Jan 31 2017, 3:30 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Jan 28 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154597: UI archive services.

I've actually never seen those in the wild they were listed in the Memento list (linked above) so I included them. The ones I often see besides LOC are

Jan 28 2017, 5:49 AM · InternetArchiveBot

Jan 27 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154597: UI archive services.

In the FAQ #4

Jan 27 2017, 3:26 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154597: UI archive services.

LOC is part of the Memento network of archive sites.

Jan 27 2017, 3:14 AM · InternetArchiveBot

Jan 23 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T155947: Exponential rescues.

WaybackMedic has a function to fix it in the wikitext.

Jan 23 2017, 8:24 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Jan 22 2017

Green_Cardamom created T155947: Exponential rescues.
Jan 22 2017, 5:27 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T155061: BOT incorrectly places {{Wayback}} template.

This is because {{cite sports-reference}} is not a recognized template.. I added it to User:InternetArchiveBot/Dead-links.js

Jan 22 2017, 3:13 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Jan 19 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T150472: Location of {{dead link}} .

The links will be invisible except in wikitext which defeats the purpose. It seems like there should be three categories of templates: mutable, immutable and ignore. With immutable, the template is recognized and the URL processed, but any changes are done outside using {{webarchive}} and {{dead link}} - the template itself remains untouched. This would solve a lot of problems because the url= field probably should remain as the original URL for reasons of interaction with Wikidata and display. The {{official}} is a good example, the URL is meant to be the original URL, which is then exported into Wikidata as the original URL, from there exported elsewhere as the original. When it's transformed into a wayback link it's confusing the downstream to what the original URL is. There are many other templates like this that assume the url= field to be the original URL and have no built-in mechanism for dead links. Using {{webarchive}} / {{deadlink}} outside the template would solve those problems.

Jan 19 2017, 2:00 PM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T150472: Location of {{dead link}} .

Is that also for non-CS templates without support archiveurl etc..?

Jan 19 2017, 3:53 AM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T150472: Location of {{dead link}} .

Note: the embedded dead link is caused by rare templates such as {{cite court}} which are not listed in the bot configuration.. this may change with 1.3 new procedure.

Jan 19 2017, 1:20 AM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T150472: Location of {{dead link}} .

For the embedded dead links:

Jan 19 2017, 12:55 AM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Jan 9 2017

Green_Cardamom edited the description of T154887: Template names containing edge case characters.
Jan 9 2017, 4:02 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom renamed T154887: Template names containing edge case characters from "Linefeed in template name causes template to be be unrecognized and get mangled" to "Template names containing edge case characters".
Jan 9 2017, 3:26 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154543: Compact cites are changed to expanded cites.

One possible solution... if the first key=value pair ends with a CR then likely it's an expanded template. If not, likely other CRs are stray and it could be collapsed. The rationale is because editors who care about expanded templates will make sure the first key|value has a CR after it .. but a template where the first key|value doesn't have a CR then editors are less likely to be concerned and safer to collapse since that is the more common layout.

Jan 9 2017, 3:16 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Restricted Application assigned T154887: Template names containing edge case characters to Cyberpower678.
Jan 9 2017, 3:00 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154884: Recognizing exotic cite templates.

WM is now logging the template names that cause these errors so I can discover and add them to the configuration page.

Jan 9 2017, 2:40 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154884: Recognizing exotic cite templates.

There's a fix in WaybackMedic function fixembedway() and it will go back over past articles since August to current.

Jan 9 2017, 2:09 AM · InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T154884: Recognizing exotic cite templates to Cyberpower678.
Jan 9 2017, 2:04 AM · InternetArchiveBot

Jan 6 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154541: Stray dead link template.

In regards to the stray dead link problem: I've written a module to WaybackMedic which checks for and removes dead link templates when there is an existing archive URL. It completed a run backwards against most of the edits by IABot since August, with some more to go. It will be part of the WM checks going forward. Module called straydt.awk

Jan 6 2017, 7:43 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Restricted Application assigned T154734: Unable to modify URL via UI to Cyberpower678.
Jan 6 2017, 2:14 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3), Internet-Archive

Jan 5 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T151182: InternetArchiveBot should not use the deprecated {{Wayback}} template..

Excellent thank you. I already wrote code to convert old templates to new, there are some tricky things with weird data inputs. Already converted over 100000 - Just need IABot to only add webarchive and not wayback or webcite or memento otherwise the conversion process is endless.

Jan 5 2017, 6:39 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Jan 4 2017

Restricted Application assigned T154597: UI archive services to Cyberpower678.
Jan 4 2017, 5:49 PM · InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154541: Stray dead link template.

It's not recognizing liveweb.archive.org (an alias to archive.org/web - who knew!)

Jan 4 2017, 5:26 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154541: Stray dead link template.

Also has trouble with rare archive services

Jan 4 2017, 5:20 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154541: Stray dead link template.

Another cause is when the archive.org date is a star (index page):

Jan 4 2017, 5:15 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154541: Stray dead link template.

I believe this is caused by Webcite redirects. In the first example for Ellon Castle the API XML returns:

Jan 4 2017, 3:40 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Jan 3 2017

Restricted Application assigned T154543: Compact cites are changed to expanded cites to Cyberpower678.
Jan 3 2017, 11:54 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Restricted Application assigned T154541: Stray dead link template to Cyberpower678.
Jan 3 2017, 11:50 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Jan 2 2017

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154119: Template inserted into br tag.

Checked 100000 recent edits by IABot and none have this bug, it looks like a 1-time .. fixbrbug() will keep checking as part of WM.

Jan 2 2017, 5:07 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T150729: Handle "cite__web" (template name with multiple spaces between the words) properly.

Added a function to waybackMedic fixembway() - deletes wayback and webcite templates embedded in cite templates.

Jan 2 2017, 4:58 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T151182: InternetArchiveBot should not use the deprecated {{Wayback}} template..

waybackMedic now integrates the conversion of {{wayback}}/{{webcite}} --> {{webarchive}} and it will check every article edited by IABot on enwiki (500,000 since September or so).

Jan 2 2017, 3:36 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T151181: InternetArchiveBot mishandles semicolons in URLs..

Confirming the API returns the correct full URL:

Jan 2 2017, 3:27 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3), Internet-Archive
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T154119: Template inserted into br tag.

I've added function fixbrbug() to waybackMedic v.2

Jan 2 2017, 3:11 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Restricted Application assigned T154145: Adding links manually via the UI to Cyberpower678.
Jan 2 2017, 2:10 AM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Dec 26 2016

Green_Cardamom created T154145: Adding links manually via the UI.
Dec 26 2016, 3:01 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Dec 22 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T153354: Automatic archive for new external links.

A few months ago, someone noticed archives not being archived and on contacting IA it was determined the process had quit running (or something) and it was restarted. It really needs a monitoring script - once a week or so. This requires adding a fresh link to Wikipedia every week (into non-main space), which means creating a fresh URL. It can probably be done through tools and cron.

Dec 22 2016, 8:45 PM · Internet-Archive, Community-Tech
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T153354: Automatic archive for new external links.

The Outlinks are (I believe) not the archived pages, rather the list of links to be archived. For whatever reason that list is not publicly available, but it doesn't need to be. It is possible to test if Internet Archive is auto archiving .. add a link that has never been archived before to a wiki page and see what happens (looks like 6hr cycle?). If it doesn't work, let me know I can contact somehow who will look into it.

Dec 22 2016, 5:40 PM · Internet-Archive, Community-Tech

Dec 21 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T153872: Saved wrong link.

Yeah this is really great. I hope editors will begin using it a lot. The talk page notice should direct editors to the tool and clarify that checking "true" or "failed" is for informational courtesy purposes only, it seems to be a common misunderstanding that checking "failed" is all that's required to fix the problem.

Dec 21 2016, 10:31 PM · Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T153872: Saved wrong link.

Ok got it, cool.

Dec 21 2016, 3:37 PM · Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot
Restricted Application assigned T153872: Saved wrong link to Cyberpower678.
Dec 21 2016, 3:19 PM · Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot

Dec 1 2016

Restricted Application assigned T152102: Spacing in external links to Cyberpower678.
Dec 1 2016, 3:20 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Nov 22 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T113262: Keep page number parameter when processing Google Books links.

I can't tell you how badly this breaks things, it might as well be vandalism. It's more than search query being removed it's the page number. So when you click on the link it goes to the first page of the book not to the page where the citation occurs. Theoretically the page number is referenced in the cite itself, but this is often not the case. So you end up deleting critical information needed for verification. I would expect if this went to RfC, and the community saw what it was doing, there would be an outcry. The privacy issue IMO is not nearly as common a problem, and there is a level of personal responsibility.

Nov 22 2016, 2:54 PM · VisualEditor, WorkType-Maintenance, Citoid

Nov 10 2016

Green_Cardamom created T150478: URL replaced by full citation.
Nov 10 2016, 7:33 PM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom edited the description of T150472: Location of {{dead link}} .
Nov 10 2016, 7:21 PM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom created T150472: Location of {{dead link}} .
Nov 10 2016, 7:20 PM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Nov 6 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T126183: Titles containing a dot give HTTP 403 when accessed using action=raw and the short URL form.
Nov 6 2016, 6:10 PM · Wikimedia-Apache-configuration

Nov 3 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T147691: Cite webs occasionally mangled in a certain way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Biathlon_at_the_2010_Winter_Olympics_%E2%80%93_Women%27s_relay&type=revision&diff=747306440&oldid=737434944

Nov 3 2016, 1:51 AM · Community-Tech, Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Oct 27 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T147691: Cite webs occasionally mangled in a certain way.

Second one showed up (on your talk page). Linking for the record.

Oct 27 2016, 2:36 AM · Community-Tech, Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Oct 7 2016

Green_Cardamom updated subscribers of T147695: Converting wayback templates to cite templates when outside a reference.
Oct 7 2016, 11:56 PM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3), Internet-Archive
Green_Cardamom updated subscribers of T147694: Nested templates error.
Oct 7 2016, 11:55 PM · Community-Tech, Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom updated subscribers of T147691: Cite webs occasionally mangled in a certain way.
Oct 7 2016, 11:51 PM · Community-Tech, Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom created T147695: Converting wayback templates to cite templates when outside a reference.
Oct 7 2016, 11:43 PM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3), Internet-Archive
Green_Cardamom created T147694: Nested templates error.
Oct 7 2016, 11:36 PM · Community-Tech, Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)
Green_Cardamom created T147691: Cite webs occasionally mangled in a certain way.
Oct 7 2016, 11:28 PM · Community-Tech, Internet-Archive, InternetArchiveBot (v1.3)

Sep 10 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T145283: PHP segmentation fault when analyzing Afghanistan on English Wikipedia.

Looks like a spurious </nowiki> tag in the article with no matching opening <nowiki>

Sep 10 2016, 4:14 PM · Community-Tech, InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive

Aug 28 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T113262: Keep page number parameter when processing Google Books links.

The second please.

Aug 28 2016, 2:50 AM · VisualEditor, WorkType-Maintenance, Citoid

Aug 27 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.

Really the best way. Users will keep adding short form and so it will need constant monitoring.

Aug 27 2016, 7:11 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.

That's great.

Aug 27 2016, 7:10 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.

Sounds good. Does it mean IABot will do conversions from short to long of existing cases on Wikipedia it comes across, in addition of any in the DB currently in short form?

Aug 27 2016, 6:57 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.

Well good idea to think they might encode data in the ID. Is it still possible to resolve with web scrape? Given a list of URLs a script should be able to build a translation table pretty quickly assuming they don't rate block.

Aug 27 2016, 6:48 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive

Aug 26 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.

Ok good idea. You've got a lot of code on your plate. And I discovered with WM it's not trivial. Plus given the size of the DB it would take a long time and lot of resources. It still needs to be done, though. I had some ideas and will pass them by you when I'm ready to start the project (if your still interested). i want to finish running WM2 first.

Aug 26 2016, 8:59 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive

Aug 22 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T113262: Keep page number parameter when processing Google Books links.

Can you provide more details on what the privacy problem is? I'm concerned removing the page numbers and search string turns Citationbot into Vandalbot. That's a non trivial change to the ref, and there is no clear consensus for removing it with a bot.

Aug 22 2016, 6:48 PM · VisualEditor, WorkType-Maintenance, Citoid
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.
It's going to verify every archive URL is working, properly formatted, and if using HTTPS when applicable.
Aug 22 2016, 1:45 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive
Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.

Maybe consider a general purpose command line tool that converts a single URL from short to long that anyone can use for any purpose with its own Github page. I could see the utility for reasons other than Wikipedia. The bot then executes that tool.

Aug 22 2016, 1:39 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive

Aug 18 2016

Green_Cardamom added a comment to T143214: Have IABot use long form URLs for archive.is and webcite.

One idea: if you can make a list of all the short form archive URLs (webcite and archive.is) in the CB DB, I can write a program to create corresponding long form version. From that table create an SQL query for the CB DB to modify to long form, and then another fairly simple program to change the existing links on Wikipedia from short form to long form (with bot approval). That will reset everything back to zero and going forward when IABot sees a new short form it will change to long form in the DB and on Wikipedia (I think?)

Aug 18 2016, 3:55 PM · InternetArchiveBot (v1.2), Internet-Archive