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Nov 23 2018

Iislucas updated the task description for T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.
Nov 23 2018, 11:39 AM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas updated the task description for T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.
Nov 23 2018, 11:39 AM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

Thanks! I've updated the description to reflect where I think we're at, and what I think is needed for a live system to respect deletions and suppressions.

Nov 23 2018, 11:27 AM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas renamed T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal from Exposing revIDs of deleted edits for research purposes to Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.
Nov 23 2018, 11:26 AM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment

Aug 15 2018

Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

@PEarleyWMF: we discussed privacy implications; can you comment further on this, and if/who you think should be looped in.

Aug 15 2018, 9:22 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment

Aug 13 2018

Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

Thanks, ok digging into code... !

Aug 13 2018, 2:27 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

OK, so while I managed to find deletions in recent changes (hurray!), I think, from reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revision_deletion (section "RevisionDelete's own log entries"), it sounds like suppressed revisions will not be logged? Is that correct?

Aug 13 2018, 11:39 AM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

Oh, I see, thanks, I was too quick in reading the documentation - when it said that log_deleted was comparable to rev_deleted, I assumed it had the same bit values - but it's a much looser relationship I see now.

Aug 13 2018, 11:27 AM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment

Aug 12 2018

Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

Ah, I see. So, from reading this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Logging_table#log_params I think log_type probably wants to be delete, and then log_deleted would be set. So I've been trying to test if log_deleted is ever set, and it's kind of hard to know, I subscribed to the EventStream, from the max age of the stream, and even looking at all events recorded and watching it for several days, log_deleted is never set. Is there a way to test it do you know?

Aug 12 2018, 8:40 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment

Aug 11 2018

Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

OK, that was helpful, maybe making more progress!

Aug 11 2018, 10:57 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment

Aug 10 2018

Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

Thanks! managing to make those long queries work now.
Looks like recent changes event stream is what we want; and it may includes deletes - I'll do a test over the weekend.
Cheers!

Aug 10 2018, 10:50 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

OK, I think I may have figured it out...

Aug 10 2018, 5:08 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

w.r.t. the more general problem we're trying to solve; it looks to me like none of these existing tools would work; an independent project needs a pub-sub of the delete events (with the delete flags), so that it can propagate the deletions to it's (processed) copy of the data. I don't see a way to do that with these tools. Does that sound right to you @Bawolff also?

Aug 10 2018, 4:22 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.
Aug 10 2018, 3:18 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment
Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

Thanks very helpful!

Aug 10 2018, 3:13 PM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment

Jul 28 2018

Iislucas added a comment to T200559: Exposing revIDs (nothing more) of deleted/suppressed edits for research to respect their removal.

cool, thanks! Can you share links/info to that, no one else I asked seems to have been aware of this tool, or how it is exposed. In particular, how can it be used to get a list of the deleted and suppressed revision IDs?

Jul 28 2018, 9:31 AM · Research-Backlog, Trust-and-Safety, Privacy, Anti-Harassment

Mar 25 2018

Iislucas added a comment to T172404: Tool "detox" loads bootstrap and jquery from getbootstrap.com and ajax.googleapis.com.

Ellery set this up, so I've assigned him. I don't think this is actively used much... (At all?) So I guess we could also take it down?

Mar 25 2018, 7:16 AM · Tools
Iislucas assigned T172404: Tool "detox" loads bootstrap and jquery from getbootstrap.com and ajax.googleapis.com to ellery.
Mar 25 2018, 7:15 AM · Tools

Jul 21 2017

Iislucas renamed Discussion-modeling (of Toxicity) from Discussion-modeling to Discussion-modeling (of Toxicity).
Jul 21 2017, 8:41 PM

Jul 20 2017

Iislucas added a comment to T166190: Update page on Meta on indicators of toxic conversations.

Current plan is to do the following:

Jul 20 2017, 5:17 AM · Research-2017-18-Q2, Anti-Harassment, Research

Jul 16 2016

Iislucas added a comment to T139007: [Discuss] Detox integration with ORES.

I noticed in the etherpad there was some concern w.r.t. ops, legal, security. Could you spell this out a bit? Thanks!

Jul 16 2016, 10:19 PM · Research, Scoring-platform-team (Current), Discussion-modeling (of Toxicity)

Aug 13 2015

Iislucas created T109016: Some long queries give no results.
Aug 13 2015, 10:30 PM · Quarry
Iislucas created T109014: Every second attempt to use Quarry to do an SQL query fails.
Aug 13 2015, 10:29 PM · Quarry